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To: cuz1961

Really surprising they did not coordinate with Pakistan or India to turn the planes around quickly. Really surprising they pulled the military defense out without considering what would happen to the tens of thousands who worked to support our efforts. Really surprising they did not create an orderly system to bring people in phases and into a secure green zone well in advance of troop withdrawals.

I am in favor, in general principle, of getting out of Afghanistan but abandoning our allies and supporters like this is outrageous and demoralizing on a human level, and on a diplomatic and international relations level.


10 posted on 08/16/2021 5:21:06 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: monkeyshine

The elites in DC dgaf.

It is just that simple.

They have no humanity or respect for their fellow human beings.

They are sociopaths.


12 posted on 08/16/2021 5:24:17 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: monkeyshine

“I am in favor, in general principle, of getting out of Afghanistan but abandoning our allies and supporters like this is outrageous and demoralizing on a human level, and on a diplomatic and international relations level.”

*****

You can’t leave them there, it weakens the US so much globally, we won’t be seen as the sole super power anymore and China, Russia and Iran can be much more aggressive to get what they want. Conflicts in multiple regions.

You can’t agree to give up Tiawan. China would then have a strangle hold on strategic resources.

The problem with war is that not only the international community and your allies don’t want it, but we the people don’t want it, either, and you’d have to admit to everyone what the world is really like and give up your identity politics games.

Like I said, it’s a no win situation, and I think Biden stepped right in China’s trap.


15 posted on 08/16/2021 5:29:49 PM PDT by BusterDog
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