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As Pentagon prepares to make Covid-19 vaccine mandatory, some lawyers see a surge in calls
CNN ^ | 8:34 AM EDT, Sun August 15, 2021 | By Oren Liebermann,

Posted on 08/15/2021 3:45:05 PM PDT by Hojczyk

’A lot of anger’ “The soldiers who have talked to me, I’ve experienced a lot of anger,” said Joseph Owens, a lawyer who served in the US Army’s Judge Advocate General’s Corps. Owens says his firm, based in Columbia, Maryland, has received about a dozen calls since Austin’s announcement.

For Owens, the question revolves around whether it is a lawful order to compel service members to receive the Covid-19 vaccine. And to answer that question, he says he will look into the decision-making process behind mandating that vaccine and the legal considerations that went into the decision. Any procedural missteps in testing, authorizing, or administering the vaccine, he says, could make it an unlawful order.

“I think there’s a very good argument that the answer is no, it’s not a lawful order,” Owens said, citing the troubled implementation of the anthrax vaccine in the late 1990s.

The military mandated the anthrax vaccine beginning in 1998, but it quickly ran into legal challenges and sowed distrust of unknown vaccines among service members, some of whom faced dismissal for their refusal to take the vaccine. That skepticism has crept up again with some troops for the Covid-19 vaccine.

“They want more data before they put a chemical in their body,” Owens said.

But a similar challenge to the Covid-19 vaccines could be far more difficult to make, especially if the Defense Department waits for FDA approval before making the shots mandatory.

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1 posted on 08/15/2021 3:45:05 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

More and more in the military are beginning to know very well that it’s the “enemy within” that is the threat.
We’ll see where this goes.


2 posted on 08/15/2021 3:48:55 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Hojczyk

A senile, demented, corrupt, anal retentive pedophile who cannot wipe his but and does everything ass backwards. The world is laughing and we are so screwed.....


3 posted on 08/15/2021 3:51:18 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Hojczyk

The fun part is going to be when the race-baiters see that minority troops are disproportionately represented among those refusing the shots.


4 posted on 08/15/2021 3:54:31 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Hojczyk

Big fuss. My granddaughter received hers at USNA in May.


5 posted on 08/15/2021 3:57:29 PM PDT by UB355 (Slow Traffic keep right)
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To: UB355

The military taught me how to think for myself. I’m not telling anyone to take the shot or not. But I’m not doing it. The survival rate for my age is 99.6 %. I’ve heard way to many vax disaster issues.


6 posted on 08/15/2021 4:15:11 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk
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To: Hojczyk

Agent Orange
Nuclear Bomb test subjects
Anthrax Vax
Gulf War syndrome
Depleted uranium munitions

Why would anyone question it’s safety?


7 posted on 08/15/2021 4:16:30 PM PDT by captain_dave
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But a similar challenge to the Covid-19 vaccines could be far more difficult to make, especially if the Defense Department waits for FDA approval before making the shots mandatory.

The FDA is about to have an “Afghanistan” moment if it approves a vaccine which is increasingly proving to be ineffective.


8 posted on 08/15/2021 4:24:58 PM PDT by Flick Lives (We may or may not have reached herd immunity, but we've definitely achieved herd stupidity.)
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To: UB355

“Big fuss”.

Big fuss my ass.


9 posted on 08/15/2021 4:34:18 PM PDT by laplata
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To: Hojczyk

I would sign up for the Navy again just to tell them no


10 posted on 08/15/2021 4:46:17 PM PDT by roving
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To: UB355

I wish I could be as uniformed as you. It would make life so much easier.


11 posted on 08/15/2021 4:50:24 PM PDT by roving
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To: roving

My grandson will be sworn in tomorrow. I know they’ll push this on him and he’s just a kid really. This will stress his Momma out and she’s already a bundle of nerves. He’s never been away from home for more than a weekend before.


12 posted on 08/15/2021 4:57:30 PM PDT by Bearshouse
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To: captain_dave
"Agent Orange Nuclear Bomb test subjects Anthrax Vax Gulf War syndrome Depleted uranium munitions Why would anyone question it’s safety?"

Excellent point

13 posted on 08/15/2021 5:03:41 PM PDT by mosaicwolf
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To: Newbomb Turk

I know two people personally with neurological issues after taking the jab...one Pfizer x 2 and one Moderna x 2 jabs.

Then three others who conveyed their family members suffered adverse reactions. Co-workers brother in law, 47 healthy stroked out and died. Our neighbors grandmother found sitting in her recliner deader than a door nail about a week after the jab and a vendor I work with told me his adult daughter is now having to see a neurologist.

This is way too close to home for me. Now my employer is mandating the vaccine by Oct 4th. If you do not comply, weekly testing to prove negative testing. Turning the screws.

Hearing now, insurance companies are contemplating raising premiums for those refusing vax or employers deducting $50 a month surcharge from paychecks.


14 posted on 08/15/2021 5:07:23 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: roving

+100


15 posted on 08/15/2021 5:17:39 PM PDT by laplata
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To: UB355
Big fuss. My granddaughter received hers at USNA in May.

My ... isn't that nice!

16 posted on 08/15/2021 5:21:01 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: Bearshouse

I think it’s no longer probable that they will be mandated to take the vax.

He’ll be okay. He joins millions who had never been away from home.

Please thank him for his service from an old Vietnam vet..


17 posted on 08/15/2021 5:22:21 PM PDT by laplata
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To: servantboy777

can you describe the delay in onset of neuro. symptoms post-injection, and the type and severity of symptoms?

at first many (like you) will have a testing alternative, but obv. the endgame is close that loophole before any really bad widespread issues become impossible to hide (thinking ADE or progression microclot problems from repeated injections)


18 posted on 08/15/2021 5:42:55 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: laplata

Encouraging words. And thank you for your service.


19 posted on 08/15/2021 5:47:49 PM PDT by Bearshouse
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To: Bearshouse

Thank you.


20 posted on 08/15/2021 5:54:40 PM PDT by laplata
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