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New data on coronavirus vaccine effectiveness may be "a wakeup call" ...[Moderna 76% - Pfizer only 42% effective]
https://www.axios.com ^ | 11 AUGUST 2021 | Caitlin Owens

Posted on 08/11/2021 12:10:00 PM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger
"Pfizer was only 42% effective."

It's a real goddamn problem when your market leader fails.

This is as if Bernie Madoff controlled everyone's 401k and it is late 2008.

We're at the tipping point we all knew was coming and the GOP better put on their big boy pants and grow tfup TODAY and get their brand messaging correct with TRUMP at the TOP and NO ONE going off the reservation; because this study is the overdue karma that Xiden has earned when you steal an election from the Leader of The Free World in The Greatest Country In History, and that negative karma needs to rammed straight down the White Hospice.

41 posted on 08/11/2021 1:25:34 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (Each of you have at least ONE of these in your 401k: Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, Johnson & Johnson)
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To: Red Badger
Novavax should be better than any current vaccine, if looking for a vaccine option.

It only addresses the spike, like all others but China's, but it's doing great in the studies.

42 posted on 08/11/2021 1:30:32 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: NoLibZone

That was back when they tricked everybody into the 70% vaxed rate would be enough.

We now know they are demanding a 100% vaxed rate

These vaccines don’t produce herd immunity because they don’t produce a sterilizing immunity. Vaccinated still carry and replicate the virus.

The fall-back position was that “well, being vaccinated reduces your symptoms” in breakthrough cases. Only now we’ve move from breakthrough cases to breakthrough deaths from Covid even after vaccination.

From Massachusetts, one of the more vaccinated states...

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/nearly-10000-breakthrough-covid-cases-reported-in-mass-over-100-have-now-died/2464309/


43 posted on 08/11/2021 1:38:24 PM PDT by Flick Lives (We may or may not have reached herd immunity, but we've definitely achieved herd stupidity.)
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To: Flick Lives

These vaccines don’t produce herd immunity


but it will happen anyway.


44 posted on 08/11/2021 2:02:14 PM PDT by TTFX ( )
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To: Flick Lives
Vaccine manufacturers never said people wouldn't get the virus just gave percenrage of protection against death ifngiven at a certain interval over a certain amount of time. Moderna stated roughly 95%. Going with 100 out of 10,000 cases, that's 1% and .002% of total vaccinated residents, it's overchieving that criteria.

Whether naturally achieved or breakthrough/vaccine induced immunity, enough people will ha e gltten this eventually fo achieve herd immunity.

45 posted on 08/11/2021 2:10:56 PM PDT by Moonlighter
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To: servantboy777
My company has mandated the vaccine as of Oct 4th. If you refuse, you will have to test regularly, wear a mask and social distance.

If it's dangerous enough to wear a mask and practice social distancing, they're telling you it's too dangerous to be there.

46 posted on 08/11/2021 2:14:45 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Red Badger

Does the spike proteins in the vaccines wear off too?


47 posted on 08/11/2021 2:20:58 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. (Psalm 33:12))
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To: TTFX

True that.


48 posted on 08/11/2021 2:36:36 PM PDT by Flick Lives (We may or may not have reached herd immunity, but we've definitely achieved herd stupidity.)
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To: Red Badger

No it’s because as Trump alluded, Pfizer has more ties to government elites in more countries! Hence why Johnson is being undermined.


49 posted on 08/11/2021 2:47:19 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: Thommas

As Trump alluded, Pfizer has more friends in high places and could do without competition from Johnson.


50 posted on 08/11/2021 2:48:43 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: Red Badger
Don't rush to any conclusions about the poor effectiveness or dangers of the vaccines based on the poor in the field results, just rush to get the shots.

Yeah, that's the ticket

51 posted on 08/11/2021 2:51:56 PM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: Red Badger

Why is there no rating for the effectiveness of Johnson and Johnson vaccine?


52 posted on 08/11/2021 3:01:24 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: servantboy777

Here too.

I’ve already had Covid. Was directly exposed several times and never got it. Then hubby started a new job where masks were mandated and he brought Covid home

But now because I’m unvaxxed I have to wear a mask and get tested weekly even though my immunity is better than my coworkers.


53 posted on 08/11/2021 3:08:42 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Back after a long hiatus. Now mygrandkidsgrandma)
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To: PMAS

I finally got J&J so I will be able to fly to visit grandkids. We all know that is coming.


54 posted on 08/11/2021 3:08:49 PM PDT by doug from upland (Why the hell isn't Hillary Rodham Clinton in prison yet?)
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To: Sacajaweau
Fauci Predicts U.S. Could See Signs Of Herd Immunity By Late March Or Early April - "I would say 50% would have to get vaccinated before you start to see an impact"(12.15.2020)

We're starting to see an impact alright. Trending in the opposite direction he was talking about.

55 posted on 08/11/2021 3:10:14 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Red Badger

Not surprising. Both Pfizer and Moderna vaccine effectiveness refer to covid (disease) not sars2 (virus transmission). These vaccines were never about herd immunity. (But they do help prevent hospitalization and death.)


56 posted on 08/11/2021 3:31:12 PM PDT by Meah
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To: Red Badger

Ah, good...I got the best one...

Though not my choice...it was the only one available in my area at the time. There was another study showing the antibodies stay around longer with Moderna as well vs. Pfizer.

No wonder the news media only wants to talk about Pfizer to keep up hysteria that this will never end.


57 posted on 08/11/2021 4:18:06 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: maxwellsmart_agent

J&J was much lower to begin with for the initial form of the virus, but still high at 70%.


58 posted on 08/11/2021 4:20:15 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Mygirlsmom
But now because I’m unvaxxed I have to wear a mask and get tested weekly even though my immunity is better than my coworkers.

One of the most moronic policies in history. If you were confirmed to have it and recovered then you have immunity.

59 posted on 08/11/2021 4:25:13 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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