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Bill Would Regulate Most Semi-Auto Rifles Under NFA
guns.com ^ | Aug. 9, 2021 | Chis Eger

Posted on 08/09/2021 1:45:36 PM PDT by PROCON

Legislation introduced in Congress this month would require any semi-automatic rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine to be registered under the National Firearms Act.

The bill, H.R.4953 {To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to subject to the requirements of the National Firearms Act any semiautomatic rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine.}, was filed last Friday in the House by U.S. Rep. Ted Deutch, a Florida Democrat who is outspoken in his support of gun control measures.

"Congress passed the National Firearms Act after the 1929 Valentine's Day massacre to tightly regulate certain machine guns & shotguns," said Deutch on social media Friday, going on to say, "It's time to update this law & regulate the weapon of choice in mass shootings: semiautomatic rifles."

Lacking from the Congressman's talking points is the fact that FBI crime statistics for 2019, the most recent year available, list rifles of all kinds as the type of weapon used in 364 of 13,927 tracked homicides across the country, or in about 2 percent of cases. By comparison, knives were used in 1,476 cases, or more than four times more often, while bodily weapons such as hands and feet were used in some 600 cases. Non-firearm/cutting weapons such as rocks and blunt objects were used in 1,593 cases.

Semi-auto rifles are extremely popular on the American firearms market at all levels. First seen in domestic production with the Winchester Model 1905 – which used a circa 1901 patent – such guns have been available for well over a century. The follow-on Winchester Model 1907 was marketed with detachable 5-, 10-, and 20-round box magazines at about the time Theodore Roosevelt was president. Estimates are that the AR-15 and similar semi-automatics dubbed Modern Sporting Rifles by the NSSF, account for an estimated 19.8 million rifles in circulation, lending concrete numbers to the argument that such guns are in common use.

H.R. 4953 has been referred to the Democrat-controlled House Ways and Means Committee and has eight co-sponsors.


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KEYWORDS: banglist; communism; communist; communistic; nfa; semiautos
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Screw these tyrants and megalomaniacs.

Molon Labe!

1 posted on 08/09/2021 1:45:36 PM PDT by PROCON
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2 posted on 08/09/2021 1:46:37 PM PDT by PROCON (Our rights do not come from government, therefore they cannot take them away.)
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To: PROCON

Its been said before but needs to be said again.
This is all about protecting Politicians.
They really don’t care one way or the other about Americans.


3 posted on 08/09/2021 1:47:14 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: PROCON

It’ll never go anywhere, but if it did, it would serve only as a vehicle to wipe out the entire NFA.

Any state or locality that actually passes something like this better get their checkbook ready when Alan Gura shows up.


4 posted on 08/09/2021 1:48:04 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: PROCON

Register your ruger 10/22..


5 posted on 08/09/2021 1:48:55 PM PDT by glimmerman70
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To: PROCON

If you wa t to know why governments want to ban firearms just look what’s happening in Australia right now.


6 posted on 08/09/2021 1:49:18 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

you don’t think it will pass? Hope not- I don’t know much about how close or not it would be for getting passed-


7 posted on 08/09/2021 1:50:26 PM PDT by Bob434
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FOAD

Or just Die.

Your choice...


8 posted on 08/09/2021 1:50:35 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: PROCON

Stupid little commie congress critter won’t even get his bill heard in committee.

Nothing to see here.


9 posted on 08/09/2021 1:50:41 PM PDT by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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To: PROCON

First question....for now:

How do they expect to enforce this?


10 posted on 08/09/2021 1:52:10 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: PROCON
U.S. Rep. Ted Deutch

Hey Ted, guess what rhymes with your surname! We'll wait while you figure it out!

11 posted on 08/09/2021 1:52:19 PM PDT by SES1066 (Ask not what the LEFT can do for you, rather ask what the LEFT is doing to YOU!)
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To: PROCON

Gun Quotations of the Founding Fathers


"A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined..."
- George Washington, First Annual Address, to both House of Congress, January 8, 1790

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787

"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787

"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776

"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to John Cartwright, 5 June 1824

"On every occasion [of Constitutional interpretation] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying [to force] what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, [instead let us] conform to the probable one in which it was passed."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, 12 June 1823

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

"To disarm the people...[i]s the most effectual way to enslave them."
- George Mason, referencing advice given to the British Parliament by Pennsylvania governor Sir William Keith, The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adooption of the Federal Constitution, June 14, 1788

"I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers."
- George Mason, Address to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 4, 1788

"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops."
- Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, October 10, 1787

"Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of."
- James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788

"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country."
- James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434, June 8, 1789

“A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves…and include, according to the past and general usuage of the states, all men capable of bearing arms…  "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."
- Richard Henry Lee, Federal Farmer No. 18, January 25, 1788

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.... The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun."
- Patrick Henry, Speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1778

"This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty.... The right of self defense is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction."
- St. George Tucker, Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England, 1803

" The balance ofpower is the scale of peace. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside. And while a single nation refuses to lay them down, it is proper that all should keep them up. Horrid mischief would ensue were one-half the world deprived of the use of them; for while avarice and ambition have a place in the heart of man, the weak will become a prey to the strong. The history of every age and nation establishes these truths, and facts need but little arguments when they prove themselves."
- Thomas Paine, "Thoughts on Defensive War" in Pennsylvania Magazine, July 1775

"The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms."
- Samuel Adams, Massachusetts Ratifying Convention, 1788

"The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them."
- Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States, 1833

"What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty .... Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins."
- Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, I Annals of Congress 750, August 17, 1789

"For it is a truth, which the experience of ages has attested, that the people are always most in danger when the means of injuring their rights are in the possession of those of whom they entertain the least suspicion."
- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 25, December 21, 1787 

"If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state. In a single state, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair."
- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28

https://www.buckeyefirearms.org/gun-quotations-founding-fathers

 

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12 posted on 08/09/2021 1:53:53 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: glimmerman70

If your ‘ol lady can shoot, she can help you with one of those.

.22lr through a 16in barrel is zipping right along. And the rifle is accurate.

A couple to the face will cause any man to stop shooting for a bit.


13 posted on 08/09/2021 1:54:23 PM PDT by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

All of my rifles were washed away in the flood... haven’t seen them since.


14 posted on 08/09/2021 1:56:33 PM PDT by southernindymom
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

The courts can no longer be relied upon, same with elections.


15 posted on 08/09/2021 1:56:52 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: PROCON

There is no bill at the link. If the text you posted is accurate, it would put all of those who ignored state registrations and bans in the position of being forced to self incriminate themselves at the state level in order to comply with this federal law. Of course, I assume most who refused to register with the state will do the same with the feds. The problem out west is that a lot of folks like to shoot in National Forest land, aka federal land. I’ve had NF rangers stop by and chat with me several times while shooting. An unlicensed NFA weapon would be bad.

That said, no way this gets anywhere.


16 posted on 08/09/2021 1:57:17 PM PDT by ETCM
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To: PROCON
MOLON LABE indeed.


17 posted on 08/09/2021 1:57:20 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. )
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To: Bob434

Not a chance. In fact, I doubt it’ll find its way to a vote anywhere. The right can’t handle a defeat this big and the left can’t handle a victory this big. It would take a campaign issue off the table for center-left politicians who want to sucker far-lefties into voting for them.

Center-right politicians pull the same tricks. How many talked of national reciprocity for CCW and even direct selling across state lines? Did we see that? Did they even really try? No, but they made a big show of it so they can tease it for next time. Lucy with the football. At least we aren’t the only ones.


18 posted on 08/09/2021 1:58:32 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: Mariner

They are really accurate. I like them and my marlin tube fed. Learned how to shoot with them and a old single shot .22. Papaw used to hand me one bullet at a time. I think it was a Remington target master.


19 posted on 08/09/2021 1:58:36 PM PDT by glimmerman70
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To: PROCON

Tough question for the “No difference between the parties” bunch: Which party (Democrat or Republican) is more likely to prevent the seizure of your AR’s - Democrat or Republican?

...and no, I realize that answering the question honestly will imply that gun rights are safer with Republicans, but we can’t have that here - right?

So the CORRECT answer: There’s no difference between the parties. Yea, with that answer, then we can feel good, enlightened, like Tesla owners.


20 posted on 08/09/2021 1:59:09 PM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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