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Covid-19 natural immunity compared to vaccine-induced immunity: The definitive summary
BY SHARYL ATTKISSON ^ | AUGUST 3, 2021 | BY SHARYL ATTKISSON

Posted on 08/03/2021 8:30:48 AM PDT by Hojczyk

Why does CDC seem to be “ignoring" natural immunity?

However, vaccination rates alone tell little about a population’s true immune-status. And where high Covid case counts occur, it ultimately means a larger segment of that community ends up better-protected, vaccines aside. That’s according to virologists who point out that fighting off Covid, even without developing any symptoms, leaves people with what’s thought to be more robust and longer-lasting immunity than the vaccines confer.

The vaccine immunity problem

Nationally, as of July 12, CDC said it was aware of more than 4,400 people who got Covid-19 after being fully vaccinated and had to be hospitalized; and 1,063 fully vaccinated people who died of Covid. But health officials still argue that vaccinated people make up only a small fraction of the seriously ill. Critics counter that CDC’s recent Massachusetts data calls that into question.

The bright side of recovering from Covid-19

But there’s promising news to be found within natural and acquired immunity statistics, according to virologists. As of May 29, CDC estimated more than 120 million Americans— more than one in three— had already battled Covid. While an estimated six-tenths of one-percent died, the other 99.4% of those infected survived with a presumed immune status that appears to be superior to that which comes with vaccination.

Unfortunately, virologists say no commonly-used test can detect with certainty whether a person is immune. A common misconception is that antibody tests can make that determination. But experts say immunity after infection or exposure often comes without a person producing or maintaining measurable antibodies.

(Excerpt) Read more at sharylattkisson.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: covid19; immunity
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1 posted on 08/03/2021 8:30:48 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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2 posted on 08/03/2021 8:38:13 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Hojczyk

We were given an immune system for a lot of reasons!


3 posted on 08/03/2021 8:38:45 AM PDT by immadashell (New Planned Parenthood slogan: Black Babies’ Lives Don't Matter!c)
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To: Hojczyk

Democrats are all about social equity, and it’s all based out of personal insecurity compensated by mob aggression.

How does that apply to this situation you ask?

Let’s delve into the psyche of a lefty. Pick any of them, but for example, let’s put the truth scanner on someone like Chris Cuomo. This would be his irrational thought process if the process were conscious enough to have an inner monologue.

I got the shot to do my part. I’m a good person.
There are other mean, selfish jerks out there who wont get the shot.
What if there are side effects later that we don’t know about yet?
They may all be conspiracy theories, and will reject them with all vehemence if the discussion ever comes up, but what if I end up with pulmonary thrombosis a year from now?
That means these jerks would have been right all along, and I’m going to suffer in the hospital and maybe die early.
SHADENFREUDE!
I act like a social empath, but I generally distrust and resent my fellow human beings, specially those jerks on the right. It cannot be allowed that they avoid the risks of an experimental vaccine when I did not!!!
Force them to take the jab!
Shame them!


4 posted on 08/03/2021 8:39:23 AM PDT by z3n
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“no commonly-used test can detect with certainty whether a person is immune.”

That implies that at least one uncommon test can.

Why should people lose control of their bodies if science would allow them to maintain personal body sovereignty?

This country is hooked on Covid testing.

How about one more test to maintain freedom in the USA?

I’m pro-vax, but many people aren’t.


5 posted on 08/03/2021 8:42:18 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Hojczyk; All
"Why does CDC seem to be “ignoring" natural immunity?"

It's probably the follow the money game.

More specifically, windfall profits from lucrative government contracts for experimental CV19 "vaccines" are probably helping incumbent desparate Democrats and RINOs to get reelected.


6 posted on 08/03/2021 8:43:14 AM PDT by Amendment10
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7 posted on 08/03/2021 8:43:47 AM PDT by PMAS (Vote with your wallets, there are 80 million of us - No Amazon, No Chy-Na made )
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If doctors could routinely test to confirm who has fought off and become immune to Covid-19, it would eliminate the practical need or rationale for those protected millions to get vaccinated. It would also allow them to avoid even the slight risk of serious vaccine side effects. Unfortunately, virologists say no commonly-used test can detect with certainty whether a person is immune.

My grandmother survived the flu of 1918 - her natural 'immunity' was passed on to several of us - I've never had any flu version even while caring for two young children with the Hong Kong flu in the late 1960's. Survivors of this bio-weapon might be able to pass on protection to their children and grandchildren.

8 posted on 08/03/2021 8:44:55 AM PDT by GOPJ (Biden's sending covid-infected illegals to Florida to hurt DeSantis? "Smallpox blankets" from Haiti )
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Related:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/cdc-study-shows-74percent-of-people-infected-in-massachusetts-covid-outbreak-were-fully-vaccinated.html?recirc=taboolainternal

About three-fourths of people infected in a Massachusetts Covid-19 outbreak were fully vaccinated, according to new data published Friday by the CDC.
The new data, published in the U.S. agency’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, also found that fully vaccinated people who get infected carry as much of the virus in their nose as unvaccinated people.


9 posted on 08/03/2021 8:48:09 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods ( comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
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I can verify that the assumption on screening always is that no one ever got COVID, or if they did they must’ve died because we wouldn’t be screening with these questions.

As a medical patient under many specialists, and as a mother having to screen for her son almost every day for school, we COVID survivors are treated as non-entities. I have NEVER gotten a question about whether we have had COVID in the past, etc. At best you get COVID TEST questions.


10 posted on 08/03/2021 8:50:32 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. )
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“While an estimated six-tenths of one-percent died”

One criminal ‘of color’ matters, two million ordinary Americans don’t really matter.


11 posted on 08/03/2021 8:50:32 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Natural immunity——the best fight against viruses and colds and known for a long time. Now all of the sudden “it’s not known if it’s effective”?

Okay-—then they’re admitting they’re science deniers or the virus was formed in a lab.


12 posted on 08/03/2021 8:52:21 AM PDT by mikelets456
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The FDA has specifically advised against antibody testing…why?
To push the vaccines.
Nothing scientific about this. Its pure profit and population control.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/fda-dangerous-error-advising-against-covid-antibody-testing/

In fact Drs not afraid to speak out STRONGLY support “ Screen Before Vaccine”. They believe that people previously infected and recovered…even those exposed infected but remained asymptomatic, now have innate immunity and could be at risk of heightened adverse effects if vaccinated, if there was more research into why some people die so quickly or develop severe effects after the shot, they might find this link to vaxxx caused immune disorder.

Not only that, but they have found that innate immunity steadily declines in vaxxed people, leaving them vulnerable to every other virus out there or any covid pathogen mutation that escapes the limited distinct characteristics against which these vaxxes from 2020 were targeted.

I will post some links.


13 posted on 08/03/2021 8:55:32 AM PDT by silverleaf (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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Myself, I am going the natural immunity route.


14 posted on 08/03/2021 8:55:37 AM PDT by Parley Baer (go trump )
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To: SaxxonWoods

If I breathe in a Covid particle, I will get infected again, even if vaccinated, and will almost always test positive.

Breathing in Covid into one’s body is like throwing rabbits into fenced backyards.

Each rabbit is going to run around each backyard for awhile. Each test for a rabbit in each backyard into which one is tossed will be positive.

But in the backyards with 50 rabbit catchers each, a rabbit won’t be running around for very long or be able to nibble at many carrots in the garden.

The vaccines basically put ‘rabbit catchers’ in one’s body ahead of actual infection.


15 posted on 08/03/2021 8:56:53 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Yeah, your bio page looks like something out of The Prometheus Crisis.


16 posted on 08/03/2021 9:03:28 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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Probably because the tests were flawed. Had the flu and tested positive. Never had Covid. So...,vaccinations for all. Should check for antibodies before vaccinating.
17 posted on 08/03/2021 9:04:44 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: immadashell
We were given an immune system for a lot of reasons!

Amen! That seems to not be a consideration with a lot of people.

18 posted on 08/03/2021 9:05:41 AM PDT by MulberryDraw
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To: Hojczyk

I am trusting my natural immunity.


19 posted on 08/03/2021 9:06:50 AM PDT by CPT Clay
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To: Cobra64

After reading that, it explains a lot. Biden voter


20 posted on 08/03/2021 9:09:06 AM PDT by roving
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