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1 posted on 08/02/2021 6:33:46 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Ridicule works.


2 posted on 08/02/2021 6:43:02 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (Welcome to the libertarian fire sale, here’s your accordian)
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To: Kaslin

If liberals can move everywhere and turn everywhere they go blue, the majority of Americans must be liberals. In which case they should rule everything.


5 posted on 08/02/2021 7:13:53 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods ( comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
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As a result of the 2020 census, California lost a seat in Congress for the first time in history.

It’s amazing to think that 10% of Arizona’s people are former Californians.

I’m sure these demographic trends will continue. There are various reasons, as noted in the article. I would just observe, having worked with various companies who sometimes recruit for highly specialized jobs, that they have had a very hard time in recent decades trying to get people from other parts of the country to move to California.

Often reasons cited for reluctance, is the high cost of housing. Even if someone could get a 50% raise by a job transfer, they could actually have a lower standard of living due to not being able to afford housing of the quality they are accustomed to, in a nicer part of town.


6 posted on 08/02/2021 7:16:29 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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Something to keep in mind is that locusts don’t give a flip about that last prairie they destroyed. Commies are the same, so long as they can steal from someone they will not stop. You have to erect barriers.


8 posted on 08/02/2021 7:34:18 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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Re: California Voters

I think the major pollsters have stopped doing exit polls in California because the vote is always so lopsided.

Anyway, as late as 2012, white California voters consistently gave a modest majority to every Republican presidential candidate.

Bush (2 times), McCain, and Romney, all received a majority of the white vote in California.

My point - 26% of Arizona voters were non-white. They voted 59% for Biden.

Trump only got 52% of the white vote in Arizona.

I agree that voter fraud was the deciding factor.

But, Trump absolutely needed to do better than 52% with white voters in a center-right state like Arizona.

9 posted on 08/02/2021 7:41:51 AM PDT by zeestephen
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Nearly my whole neighborhood here are from Cal.

Every single one except one are staunch conservatives.

Will be interesting to see what happens.


10 posted on 08/02/2021 7:54:53 AM PDT by crz
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A lot of California’s reality is governed by the big ports over there, so yeah, they are going to be about the globalism because thats where they make their money. Arizona has a different set of economic realities, mining, manufacturing, beef, so thats really different from having big old ports and lots of military spending to rely on. I think California is well on its way to having a culture defined by the new Silk Road, based on hospitality, like Ethiopia and Arab traders of old. Other places will need cultures that serve their interests just as Californians has found one that sort of serves their interests. You can’t just lock horns when dealing with supremacists (and they are) because the whole noble fight for truth, justice, and the right to violate ardvarks is what these guys are all about. Make the conversation about budgets instead but remember to paint a picture and not just bore them to death.

The homeless crisis might serve as an example. It gets hot as balls in Arizona whereas Los Angeles temperature barely budges, so people who live outdoors long term are going to be more likely to do so in a place with stable temperatures.


13 posted on 08/02/2021 9:20:03 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (Welcome to the libertarian fire sale, here’s your accordion)
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