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‘The war has changed’: Internal CDC document urges new messaging, warns delta infections likely more severe [VACCINE FAILURE]
Washington Post ^ | 7/29/21 8:58pm | Yasmeen Abutaleb, Carolyn Y. Johnson and Joel Achenbach

Posted on 07/29/2021 10:13:30 PM PDT by ReaganGeneration2

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To: ReaganGeneration2

And yet wuhan is still churning out bio weapon mutations after their successful attack on the U.S. and they are not yet a glowing parking lot.


21 posted on 07/29/2021 10:33:34 PM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: cgbg

Total legal indemnity for the vaccine companies really


22 posted on 07/29/2021 10:33:34 PM PDT by Therapsid (eagan )
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To: ReaganGeneration2
I like this part:

The presentation highlights the daunting task the CDC faces. It must continue to emphasize the proven efficacy of the vaccines at preventing severe illness and death while acknowledging milder breakthrough infections may not be so rare after all, and that vaccinated individuals are transmitting the virus. The agency must move the goal posts of success in full public view.

The CDC declined to comment.

Although it’s rare, we believe that at an individual level, vaccinated people may spread the virus, which is why we updated our recommendation,” according to the federal health official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly. “Waiting even days to publish the data could result in needless suffering and as public health professionals we cannot accept that.”

Within the span of a few sentences, vaccinated transmission of the virus went from "may not be so rare" back to "although it's rare" and "waiting even days... could result in needless suffering."

That's the difference between an internal presentation and an external comment. Internally, they have to change the goalposts on success, but externally the have to keep the fear going.

-PJ

23 posted on 07/29/2021 10:41:54 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (* LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: ReaganGeneration2

Read every word in the article, as recommended. This is the first time that has happened in years, frankly, such is this commenter’s distaste toward, and lack of trust in, the source (WashPo). Many laughs throughout when blatant bias was revealed by this deceptive turn of phrase or that blatantly obvious squid-like squirt of ink meant to shroud or obscure the truth. Distaste and distrust therefore validated and renewed. That said, yes, the truth concentration in the overall piece, when one reads through to the end, was much higher than what is typically to be expected from a deep state “house organ”. Something must be up for WashPo to cough up this much text contradicting key plotlines of the precious plandemic/vexation narrative.


24 posted on 07/29/2021 10:45:06 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: ReaganGeneration2

bump for later


25 posted on 07/29/2021 11:21:19 PM PDT by GOPJ (Biden's sending covid-infected illegals to Florida to hurt DeSantis. "Smallpox blankets" from Haiti )
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To: ReaganGeneration2

They lump all the vaccines together.
They really should publish the data by vaccine brand.
Then we will know, at a minimum, which ones might be the best.
But for most people it is way too late. They either already got jabbed, or, are refusing.
I have almost no opinion. I respect people’s individual choices. But it would be nice to see hard data and statistics instead of this gruel they put out as if all treatments and all vaccines are the same. They are not.

I am very disappointed that there has been no real, well funded randomly controlled clinical trials studying the cocktails of HCQ+ or Ivermectin+. The studies published, pro and against, don’t properly investigate the protocols put out by many clinicians and researchers. I think that Ivermectin+Zinc+D3 would do wonders. Add an antibiotic if covid is suspected, to prevent secondary infections. But that’s just my opinion. Really shameful that the powers that be went full throttle against these potential therapeutics. There may be others. Instead they bet the farm on vaccines which may turn out to be a big mistake.


26 posted on 07/29/2021 11:23:32 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: ReaganGeneration2

More contagious does not make it more deadly


27 posted on 07/29/2021 11:44:24 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: ReaganGeneration2
Here is a direct link to the actual CDC presentation referred to in the WaPo article.

-PJ

28 posted on 07/29/2021 11:48:44 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (* LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: ReaganGeneration2

And still, I know no one who has succumbed. I know people who know people, but only a few, and they were on death’s short list.


29 posted on 07/30/2021 12:05:43 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: ReaganGeneration2

Even this data from the CDC is really no longer valid, as it doesn’t account at all for the fact that vaccine efficacy is fading. That said, I do worry that more virulent strains are going to start circulating among the vaccinated, and will pose an actual risk to the unvaccinated. Vaccines that only partially prevent infection and transmission could be a lot worse than no vaccines at all.


30 posted on 07/30/2021 12:20:35 AM PDT by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: cgbg; LegendHasIt

How will they cheat (push fake mail-in ballots) now?

2022 is coming - Quick, someone narrate somethin’!


31 posted on 07/30/2021 12:28:30 AM PDT by 4Liberty (Honest GOP can't use legal means because Dems use illegal ones (threats). The Robert Creamer Party! )
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To: proust; LegendHasIt; ReaganGeneration2; Travis McGee

32 posted on 07/30/2021 12:36:01 AM PDT by 4Liberty (Honest GOP can't use legal means because Dems use illegal ones (threats). The Robert Creamer Party! )
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To: Skywise
They aren't skyrocketing. They're no where near where they were when this started or last winter. This is a bad seasonal cold/flu that will become less and less effective as time goes on. WP, like most of the media are nothing but fear whores.
33 posted on 07/30/2021 1:18:40 AM PDT by whershey
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To: ReaganGeneration2

Only for the vaxxed.

For everyone else, it’s a milder disease.

They’d come out a lot further ahead if they’d just get their story straight.

The only thing they seem to agree on is that the so-called delta variant is more transmissible.

Otherwise, they are all over the map with it.

Maybe they should just back off for a few days and decide which narrative to use and at least get some consistency.


34 posted on 07/30/2021 1:43:14 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…..)
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To: ReaganGeneration2

“as close to the truth”... which means they’re still light years away.

Ugh.

FWIW, I heard Trump’s former health guy on Fox yesterday sounding very anxious about the “delta” rona strain. He is pro-vax.


35 posted on 07/30/2021 1:57:12 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Skywise
Agreed.

The conversation is about whether we’re having a vaccine for a virus. The fact is the matter is we’re not. We are injecting a spike protein mRNA sequence which is a computer simulation, it’s not derived from nature, it’s a computer simulation of a sequence which has been known and patented for years.

There is no evidence that the delta variant is somehow distinct from anything else on GISAID. The fact that we are now looking for a thing doesn’t mean that it is a thing because we are looking at fragments of things and the fact is that if we choose any fragment in the genome sequence. I could come up with "variant omega" tomorrow and I could say I’m looking for this sub-strand of either DNA or mRNA, or even a protein, and I could run around the world saying “fear the omega variant.”

The problem is because of the nature of the way in which we currently sequence genomes, which is actually a compositing process – it’s what we can call in mathematics an interleaving – we don’t have any point of reference to actually to know whether or not the thing we’re looking at is in fact distinct from either clinical or even genomic sense.

And so we’re trapped in a world where unfortunately if you go an look at the papers that isolated the delta variant and actually asked the question is the delta variant anything other than a selection of a sequence in a systematic shift of an already disclosed other sequence, the answer is it’s just an alteration and when you start and stop what you call the reading frame. There is no novel anything.

36 posted on 07/30/2021 2:40:36 AM PDT by Ahithophel (Communication is an art form susceptible to sudden technical failure)
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To: metmom
Maybe they should just back off for a few days and decide which narrative to use and at least get some consistency.

We should always be grateful when the tyrants that rule over us are idiots--the alternative is far worse.
37 posted on 07/30/2021 2:41:27 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: ReaganGeneration2

And what are their breakthrough symptoms?

What percentage have mild symptoms.

What percentage have cold/flu like symptoms?

What pecentage have to be hospitalized with serious symptoms?

Without this information, why in old tarnation should the vaccinated run for the hills, caterwauling like sodomized camels from Yemen?

Oh I forgot.........

We are supposed to panic and allow the pandemic emergency rules extend right into the Nov 3 2022 mid term elections so the left can REPEAT THE CHEAT?

Buahahahahahahaha!

RUN FOR THE HILLS EVERYBODY...... LOCK AWAY YOUR CHILDREN AND PETS, The DELTA VARIANT IS COMING!( sarc.)

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Just roll out some Ivermectin, especially if you are vaxed.

Now , while we have a window of relative health, we must turn to drug therapy for prophylaxis.

Ivermectin is your friend:

Why do you think many Freepers are stocked up with Ivermectin and the necessary sister drugs?

Easy to order right here:

Ziverdo Kit: https://www.ziverdokit.store/

Or order the Ivermectin and follow the Dr. Pierre Kory protocols:

https://covid19criticalcare.com/

To order:

https://www.rxindia.com/medicines/medicine-index-alphabetical/z/ziverdo-kit/?s=%2Fmedicines%2Fmedicines-by-therapeutic-class%2Fcovid

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The Ziverdo Kit
Ziverdo kit (Zinc, Ivermectin, and Doxycycline) is a triple combination of active drugs at their effective doses. You might wonder why you have a supplement like a zinc tablet, an anti-parasitic agent, and an antibiotic in a kit. Well, it is a matter of research, and you can be sure that the best would be what the INDIAN FDA would approve.

Ivermectin, one of the Ziverdo kit constituents, has been an agent employed to treat several parasitic infections. It is indicated for use at the appropriate dosage, but safety at a higher dosage has not been established. Some have reported visual defects at higher doses. You may be curious enough to ask the benefit you stand to gain from the triple therapy of the Ziverdo kit. Yes, it does attack organisms of which makes it an excellent anti-viral agent. Ziverdo kit has an impressive efficacy on viruses, making it logical for its use in Dengue, Yellow fever, sindbis virus. Ivermectin usually comes in a dose of 3-6mg, but in the Ziverdo kit, the dose is increased to 12mg dispersible tablet for efficacy.

Zinc is another essential drug in the triple combination, rightly referred to as a supplement; zinc tablet has been used in different conditions such as diarrhea to reduce bowel movement. You might begin to wonder how that has to do with the virus. Yes, zinc tablet has a significance at a higher dose. It is employed at a lower dose in diarrhea cases, especially for babies who take a Zinc tablet of 20mg daily. Zinc is an excellent immune booster at a higher dose and has been recommended as a dietary supplement but not at an amount higher than the recommended dietary intake. The kit has Zinc acetate, which is equivalent to 50mg elemental zinc.

Doxycycline is a well-known drug used for several bacterial infections. Its use has benefited individuals who suffer viral infections due to doxycycline activity on RNA viruses. One of the reasons why the triple therapy of the Ziverdo kit is relevant is the anti-inflammatory activity of doxycycline. One of the most life-threatening symptoms of the Virus is hyper-inflammation of the airways, common among non-survivors of the Virus illness. Ziverdo kit has 100mg of doxycycline, which is the standard dose of the drug.

How Ivermectin works:

“Ivermectin docks to the SARS-CoV-2 spike receptor-binding domain attached to ACE2”

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343390023_Ivermectin_docks_to_the_SARS-CoV-2_spike_receptor-binding_domain_attached_to_A


38 posted on 07/30/2021 2:58:53 AM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism:http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html) )
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To: ReaganGeneration2

The “vaccines” are working. They are a cure for Wuhan flu hysteria, not a vaccine for the flu. Hysteria sufferers who get the vaccine overcome their hysteria and drop their precautions thus get the flu and help reach herd immunity. The success of the vaccinations is measured by the number of vaccinated who get the flu.


39 posted on 07/30/2021 3:08:25 AM PDT by TheDon (Resist the usurpers)
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To: ReaganGeneration2

The CDC has the credibility of the CCP.


40 posted on 07/30/2021 3:15:33 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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