Posted on 07/11/2021 5:44:00 PM PDT by elpadre
A very important meeting took place in Moscow last week, virtually hush-hush. Nikolai Patrushev, secretary of the Russian Security Council, received Hamdullah Mohib, Afghanistan’s national security adviser.
There were no substantial leaks. A bland statement pointed to the obvious: They “focused on the security situation in Afghanistan during the pullout of Western military contingencies and the escalation of the military-political situation in the northern part of the country.”
The real story is way more nuanced. Mohib, representing embattled President Ashraf Ghani, did his best to convince Patrushev that the Kabul administration represents stability. It does not – as the subsequent Taliban advances proved.
Patrushev knew Moscow could not offer any substantial measure of support to the current Kabul arrangement because doing so would burn bridges the Russians would need to cross in the process of engaging the Taliban. Patrushev knows that the continuation of Team Ghani is absolutely unacceptable to the Taliban – whatever the configuration of any future power-sharing agreement.
So Patrushev, according to diplomatic sources, definitely was not impressed. (go to link for story)
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Kind of how Sinn Fein became the voice of the IRA.
Give them time….
Driving through the streets of Mazar E Sharif in ‘02-03, obviously it was weird seeing so many folks missing limbs and places to get prosthetics.
I remember driving around on ATVs and seeing the painted rocks where I couldn’t drive because of the mine fields. The very places where many of the Afghanis were losing limbs.
The mines were there from the Russians, not the US.
Making strange bedfellows with a country that was killing their kids and using chemical weapons on them.
Uh huh.
So now, the New Taliban is all sophisticated and stuff, eager to negotiate; sort of like Hamas, right?
“…The 2021 Taliban have little in common with their 2001 pre-war on terror incarnation. The movement has evolved from a largely Ghilzai Pashtun rural guerrilla insurgency to a more inter-ethnic arrangement, incorporating Tajiks, Uzbeks and even Shi’ite Hazaras – a group that was mercilessly persecuted during the 1996-2001 years of Taliban power.
Reliable figures are extremely hard to come by, but 30% of the Taliban today may be non-Pashtuns. One of the top commanders is ethnically Tajik – and that explains the lightning-flash “soft” blitzkrieg in northern Afghanistan across Tajik territory.
I visited a lot of these geologically spectacular places in the early 2000s. The inhabitants, all cousins, speaking Dari, are now turning over their villages and towns to Tajik Taliban as a matter of trust. Very few – if any – Pashtuns from Kandahar or Jalalabad are involved. That illustrates the absolute failure of the central government in Kabul….”
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I clearly have not been keeping up with things. The transition from largely Pashtun to what is described here is all new to me.
It’s a waste of time coming up with new labels for moslems...
Hateful scum is hateful scum no matter how you label it...
We should have never got involved after we chased Bin Ladin out….but the generals new better…
Horse Soldiers : The Extraordinary Story of a Band of U. S. Soldiers Who Rode to Victory in Afghanistan
by Doug Stanton
They warned about getting involved…
““…The 2021 Taliban have little in common with their 2001 pre-war on terror incarnation. The movement has evolved from a largely Ghilzai Pashtun rural guerrilla insurgency to a more inter-ethnic arrangement, incorporating Tajiks, Uzbeks and even Shi’ite Hazaras – a group that was mercilessly persecuted during the 1996-2001 years of Taliban power.”
I had no idea of their transition. That may be why Trump felt he could negotiate with them. Does anyone know what all was being discussed and if there were ever any possibilities??
Even if “The movement has evolved from a largely Ghilzai Pashtun rural guerrilla insurgency to a more inter-ethnic arrangement, incorporating Tajiks, Uzbeks and even Shi’ite Hazaras” the present Taliban will kill or imprison every Afghan that worked with the Americans, was in the Afghan government or army and those women that got advanced education or stopped wearing those required black tents with eye hole slits. The Afghan clock will turn back to the 8th century A.D.
Saracen bastards.
Can’t wait for the Taliban ambassador to the UN. He’ll come to America(the Great Satan) with his whole family, extended family too and live fat and sassy in NYC.
Great. Just great.
Yep!
I still maintain that, once we knew where he was hiding, that a single 20KT device would have finished him and thousands of American lives wouldn't have been wasted and destroyed...
Let the M.E. moslems on all sides slaughter each other as long as they don't mess with us...
The first few American Presidents did exactly that...
Screw with us and get hammered...
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