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What Really Happened To Alibaba's Founder, Jack Ma?
Forbes ^ | 06/24/2021 | George Calhoun

Posted on 07/09/2021 8:55:52 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

“To get rich is glorious.” - Deng Xiaoping

“Among the richest men in China, few have good endings.” - Jack Ma

No good endings? Indeed.

Start with this: We know more about the whereabouts and the condition of Alexei Navalny, Vladimir Putin’s prize prisoner, than we do about Jack Ma.

Last Fall Jack Ma was rich, and famous, and we knew all about him, followed his every move. He was in fact the richest man in China, and the most famous living Chinese person (according to polls). He was poised to crown his career with a triumphant public offering for his company, The Ant Group, the largest Fintech company in the world.

The markets loved him. His high-tech business empire – which included Alibaba, the “Amazon of China” – was valued at well over $1 Trillion. He was an entrepreneur, an innovator, and charismatic spokesman for Success in the New China. But in Ma’s charisma there was a dimension beyond. His showmanship skills were extraordinary. Alibaba’s stadium-sized company celebrations were choreographed into extravaganzas the equal of any Super Bowl halftime show, and Ma himself was always the star…

He was truly (to borrow Deng’s word) Glorious…

Then he disappeared.

Ma last took the public stage on October 24 of last year, in Shanghai. He gave a speech – The Speech, as it will be known – in which he was bluntly critical of the Chinese financial industry establishment. Days later, the authorities responded. They killed the Ant IPO, and summoned Ma to Beijing for “regulatory interviews.” And the curtain came down.

Jack Ma hasn’t been seen since – if by “seen” we mean being actually observed, and verifiably photographed, in public, and at liberty. Instead, through a credulous press, we have been treated to a series of bizarre “sightings.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alibaba; bloggers; china; jackma; whocares
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1 posted on 07/09/2021 8:55:52 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Ma was ChiCom through and through.

Whatever he gets, he supported and benefitted from the system and being part if it as apart you member.


2 posted on 07/09/2021 8:58:35 PM PDT by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: SeekAndFind

He criticized the regime. The typical penalty is the removal of most of your assets. At the very least, he’s probably not a billionaire.

I don’t think he’s dead. I have read that he’s been since since he became absent.


3 posted on 07/09/2021 9:01:39 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Just because I coughed on you does not mean that I have covid. It means that we have covid. )
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4 posted on 07/09/2021 9:03:07 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Jonty30

RE: I don’t think he’s dead. I have read that he’s been since since he became absent.

Western news outlets have not given much attention to the story and they have been surprisingly uncritical regarding what they have reported.

There are one billion smartphones in China today. Everyone knows what Jack Ma looks like. Given his notoriety, and the intense vested interest of the financial world in his status and well-being, if he is at liberty today, how could it be that there are no pictures of him in circulation?


5 posted on 07/09/2021 9:04:51 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Jonty30

I don’t think he’s dead. I have read that he’s been since since he became absent.


Seen?


6 posted on 07/09/2021 9:05:03 PM PDT by Jane Long (S**** the CDC and their pronouncements; they have long since lost ALL credibility.~HA, FR VP)
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To: Jonty30

“He criticized the regime.”

He is the regime.

Power struggles among cliques.


7 posted on 07/09/2021 9:05:37 PM PDT by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: SeekAndFind

hybris has been the downfall of many powerful men throughout history. Jack Ma thought he was untouchable? How do you get so wealthy with shit for brains?

Should have cashed in and gone to Singapore or any of 180 countries that would be glad to take him and his cash. Instead he decides it’s wise to shoot his mouth off to bitch about chicom regulators? now his life is reduced to shitting 2x a day in a chicom jail.

It’s clear Xi is no Deng. Why would anyone with cash stay in the chicom hell?


8 posted on 07/09/2021 9:07:19 PM PDT by KingofZion
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To: SeekAndFind

House arrest is typical for high level party members.

Zhao Ziyang stayed under house arrest from 1989 until he died in 2005 for not wanting to massacre the people on June 4th.


9 posted on 07/09/2021 9:11:29 PM PDT by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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“It’s clear Xi is no Deng.”

Yeah. Deng was even more murderous.

“Why would anyone with cash stay in the chicom hell?”

Because Ma is a ChiCom through and through.


10 posted on 07/09/2021 9:13:05 PM PDT by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: SeekAndFind

He’s going through a sex-change operation, perhaps unwillingly


11 posted on 07/09/2021 9:13:38 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Jane Long

Yes, seen. Autocorrect on cellphone. I don’t always pay attention.


12 posted on 07/09/2021 9:14:23 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Just because I coughed on you does not mean that I have covid. It means that we have covid. )
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Wonndered about him just yesterday...


13 posted on 07/09/2021 9:22:44 PM PDT by SaveFerris (The Lord, The Christ, and The Messiah: Jesus Christ of Nazareth - http://www.BiblicalJesusChrist.Com)
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To: SeekAndFind

The larger story is that Ma is an example of how, even in Fascist nations like China, entrepreneurs are eventually stifled when they complain about the self imposed shortfalls of Marxism.

It’s not a sustainable system.


14 posted on 07/09/2021 9:45:39 PM PDT by jdsteel ("A Republic, Madam, if you can keep it." Sorry Ben, looks like we blew it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Pelosi ordered him arrested....


15 posted on 07/09/2021 10:23:49 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (I need more money. )
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To: SeekAndFind

China has just one glorious leader.


16 posted on 07/09/2021 10:25:59 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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“...crack down on...forcing merchants to choose only one online channel”

“disorderly expansion”

“systemic risk to the country’s financial system”

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jack-mas-ant-group-reined-093000330.html


17 posted on 07/09/2021 10:39:37 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: SeekAndFind

He probably just decided to do some organ donations.


18 posted on 07/09/2021 10:43:22 PM PDT by The Duke (Search for 'Sydney Ducks' and understand what is needed.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Frightening.


19 posted on 07/09/2021 11:03:05 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9

What did he know about Hillary?


20 posted on 07/09/2021 11:21:41 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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