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Private Cannon Ownership in Early America (Oh, Joe, all the things you don't know)
American Institute for Economic Research ^ | June 28, 2021 | Robert E. Wright

Posted on 07/04/2021 3:17:36 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan

"President" Joseph R. Biden, Jr. claimed in a speech on Wednesday, 23 June 2021 that “The Second Amendment, from the day it was passed, limited the type of people who could own a gun and what type of weapon you could own. You couldn’t buy a cannon.”

Oh, Joe, all the things you don’t know! Your claims are factually inaccurate; Internet patriots should censor these particular ones as dismisinfoganda. Other fact checkers have already pilloried your ignorance of these matters! You, or at least your speechwriters, should read a book, literally my One Nation Under Debt (McGraw Hill 2008). In it, and the copious sources cited therein, you will find that private individuals could, and did:

(Excerpt) Read more at aier.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; cannon; july4th
Anyone even marginally educated in the early Republic falls down laughing at this one, but on the ignorant Left it's still gospel.
1 posted on 07/04/2021 3:17:36 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: Chad C. Mulligan
Didn't Ronald Reagan have a quote about liberals and what they don't know?
2 posted on 07/04/2021 3:32:37 AM PDT by Bernard (“When once the guardian angel has taken flight, everything is lost”. – William H. Seward, 1/12/1861)
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To: Bernard

I was thinking about that RR quote several hours ago and earlier in the day, as well.

Earlier in the day, I was thinking about a young liberal I worked with and her silly ideas.

Oh, btw, Iran is messed up because —————> it’s all America’s fault. (according to her)


3 posted on 07/04/2021 3:37:09 AM PDT by SaveFerris (The Lord, The Christ, and The Messiah: Jesus Christ of Nazareth - http://www.BiblicalJesusChrist.Com)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Bkmk


4 posted on 07/04/2021 4:35:56 AM PDT by sauropod (The smartphone is the retina of the mind's eye.)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Article 1 Section 8 gives Congress authority to grant letters of Marque and Reprisal.

In those days, a petitioner would approach Congress and request that a letter of Marque be granted.

Congress, not being populated by morons, at that time, would reasonably inquire as to the size, rig, manpower and armament of the ship, to see if it were worthy of such consideration.

Armament would be as advanced naval gunnery as could be afforded by the petitioner(s).

Reasonably, the Constitution and Congress were acknowledging that any person, partnership or corporation would have a right (expectation?) of access to and private ownership of the most advanced weaponry of the day. Sufficient to make war on the commerce and navies of our enemies.

More clear, if not expressly stated in the particular wording, than even the 2nd Ammendment, this Section of Article 1 tells us that the 2nd Ammendment guarantees extend well beyond simply hunting and sporting weapons.

This is, indeed speaking to implements of war, the most advanced in the marketplace, being available and in the hands of our citizenry.


5 posted on 07/04/2021 4:57:04 AM PDT by steve in DC
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

I had a neighbor that owned functional black powder cannons. I am not sure if they were authentic or reproduction. It took 3 people to lift the barrel off the wheel part. He was a civil war reenactor.


6 posted on 07/04/2021 5:17:16 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Dutch Boy

Likewise, I have a friend who owns such a cannon. He’ll be firing it off in celebration of our independence today!

Xiden is a doddering old fool...


7 posted on 07/04/2021 5:29:28 AM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Cannons and powder could be bought even up to and after the civil war, when the govt sold cannons to the public . It’s in the N.Y. And Philly newspapers. GIs even sent Japanese flamethrowers via the USMail as war souvenirs to their parents during the war. (”Plattsburgh Relublican”, 1944)


8 posted on 07/04/2021 6:55:37 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (That`s 464 people per square foot! Is this corrrect?? It was NYC.)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

For anyone interested there is an old patent for a combo plow-canon for early militias.

https://symonsez.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/plowandgun.jpg?w=584


9 posted on 07/04/2021 7:50:01 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ((Democrats have declared us to be THE OBSOLETE MAN in the Twilight Zone.))
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To: bunkerhill7

Up until the mid 60’s:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ad+lahti+and+cannon+for+sale&t=h_&iax=images&ia=images&iai=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn0.wideopenspaces.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F11%2F15-Vintage-Gun-Ads-That-Will-Make-You-Laugh-3-773x1024.gif


10 posted on 07/04/2021 8:36:50 AM PDT by sjmjax
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Francis Bannnerman became rich selling war surplus from his New York City shop and his island arsenal in the Hudson River near Newburg NY. His golden days of operation were from the 1870’s to the 1930’s but the company lasted well into the 1970’s in a reduced form. Bannerman actually bought Polopel Island in the Hudson because New York City officials were concerned about the huge amount of ammunition he kept on hand at his city storefront. He had numerous cannon for sale from small field guns to massive naval and siege cannon. Oh yeah he also could sell you the ammunition for those cannon including explosive shells.


11 posted on 07/04/2021 8:52:53 AM PDT by XRdsRev (Justice for Bernell Trammell, Trump supporter, murdered in 2020)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan
https://www.ebay.com/b/Black-Powder-Cannon/73979/bn_7023256911

Happy Shopping!

12 posted on 07/04/2021 9:25:06 AM PDT by Calamari
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To: Calamari

Still looking for a
Mountain Howitzer as used
During the Geronimo activity.


13 posted on 07/04/2021 10:00:14 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Be Still and Know that I Am God. Rev 19)
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To: steve in DC
Article 1 Section 8 gives Congress authority to grant letters of Marque and Reprisal.

I always thought that would have been a great way to deal with the Somali pirates, just a few years ago. Obtain congressional authorization, and a small cargo ship. Sell space on the ship to fun-loving American gun owners, and then go trolling for pirates. When the unsuspecting cut-throats show up, introduce them to "Mr. Barrett' and friends...

;^)

14 posted on 07/04/2021 10:51:23 AM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("He therefore who may resist, must be allowed to strike." - John Locke)
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To: Big Red Badger
https://hernironworks.com/product/mountain-howitzer-full-scale-2-14-bore/

Carriage not included. Probably expensive. Powder and projectiles might be pricey too.

The gun shop in San Jose that I used to buy reloading components from had a black powder cannon they would take to the range every few months. It was what they called a beer can bore and they would make projectiles from empty beer cans with the tops removed filled with quikcrete and left to set up. Powder was loaded into dry beer can bottoms and covered with a sheet of toilet paper glued around the edges.

Big noise lots of smoke and the projectile would penetrate 3 or more feet into the backstop berm.

15 posted on 07/04/2021 11:06:04 AM PDT by Calamari
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To: sjmjax

corectomundo—after WW1 the govt gave away German machine guns to all the American Legion posts. Korean War vets brought home thousands of M1 carbines. It was normal.
1965-1967 returning GI`s from Vietnam brought back AK47`s , grenades, etc openly right thru San Francisco Airport heading home..I was motor vehicle transport for 3 years from the airport for thousands of armed GI`s and nurses returning with all their thousands of AK47`S & war souvenirs.
This country has deviated from the 2nd Amendement big time..


16 posted on 07/04/2021 11:38:18 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (That`s 464 people per square foot! Is this corrrect?? It was NYC.)
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To: Who is John Galt?

I kind of thought, similarly during the 2 Iraq wars. Might have been an interesting economic opportunity, to capture an Iranian, or Iraqui, fully loaded tanker, and transact it as a “prize of war”.


17 posted on 07/04/2021 2:01:01 PM PDT by steve in DC
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To: Calamari

Now THAT’S ENTERTAINMENT!
.
I’ve got Dragoons and
Hawkins,
They are Fun to Shoot!
A Great teaching tool
to a New Shooter as Well.
The “Reenactors” Love
To show off their Toys.
Thanks


18 posted on 07/04/2021 2:23:53 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (Be Still and Know that I Am God. Rev 19)
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To: Calamari

12 pounder Half Scale,
895.00——
.
I like That one too!


19 posted on 07/04/2021 2:37:01 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (Be Still and Know that I Am God. Rev 19)
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