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To: ConservativeMind
Re: "Actually, there were several minutes of super loud "popping" as cracks opened up from the roof, downward, and the parking deck roof pieces fell down."

I am hearing this claim for the first time.

Source?

I keep repeating myself, but...

The only way a concrete deck building can pancake is if all the primary support columns fail at the same moment.

As of yesterday, there were ZERO support columns visible above the rubble pile, which is (was) only 25-30 feet high

What happened to the 90 feet of concrete support columns that used to be above the second and third floor?

Until proven otherwise - all of the columns anchored in the basement had to collapse at the same moment.

49 posted on 06/30/2021 4:30:45 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

Normal columns have to be loaded “in the kern”, i.e, plumb to the Earth, and carry compression loads. Once the pilings, pile caps, or the structural elements on the lower levels fail, everything above comes apart like a house of cards. My guess is that the remans of the former columns are on their sides, sandwiched between the slabs.


50 posted on 06/30/2021 5:24:57 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: zeestephen

Here are a few references:

https://newsrnd.com/news/2021-06-29-%22i-ran-away%22—this-is-how-this-latina-woman-managed-to-survive-the-collapse-of-the-building-in-miami.B1WQ1XLOhO.html

https://abc7news.com/amp/florida-collapse-video-miami-condo-tiktok-before-collpase-champlain-tower-south/10847025/


54 posted on 06/30/2021 5:53:20 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: zeestephen

This is better one with Ileana:

https://nypost.com/2021/06/26/florida-survivor-recalls-escape-from-collapsing-condo/

Here is the story from Sara Nir:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9741049/Engineer-investing-Miami-condo-collapse-says-pool-caved-first.html

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/miami-florida-building-collapse-06-30-21/h_b6d81cbe1f1752b2c1ec202b423e6320

Here is a wife who called her husband freaking out over the ongoing noises and the pool:

https://www.local10.com/news/local/2021/06/30/missing-woman-made-phone-call-to-her-husband-as-surfside-condo-collapsed/?outputType=amp


56 posted on 06/30/2021 6:01:20 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: zeestephen

Local Miami station interviewed a woman who got out and the only reason she got out was because a giant crack formed in her living room. She’s an older lady, yet she still had time to exit the building. I didn’t catch what floor she lived on, not even sure they said.

The video certainly makes it appear it was an instantaneous collapse. And, the catastrophic failure likely was. But, there were apparently some significant signs of impeding doom for some short period of time before it all came down, including noises.


57 posted on 06/30/2021 6:26:53 PM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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