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To: Rummyfan

I think local self-rule and general Red State defiance of Federal tyranny, backed up by militias if necessary, are the only way to preserve liberty for those who want and are willing to fight for it. But I think saving the Republic as it used to exist is impossible, or at least nearly so.


5 posted on 06/28/2021 7:20:36 AM PDT by LIConFem (Bring a Commie to room temperature for Mommy)
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To: LIConFem

But I think saving the Republic as it used to exist is impossible, or at least nearly so.

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The profound changes in demographics, culture, morality and ethics in this country in recent decades suggest you are right. Many of these changes are irreversible.


13 posted on 06/28/2021 7:35:04 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: LIConFem

But I think saving the Republic as it used to exist is impossible, or at least nearly so.


The country is beyond saving. If you know a “moderate” Democrat, Center Left independent, LeftLeaning Libertarian, at the end of the day, no matter how much they tell you they don’t have a problem with guns, trucks, fireplaces, capitalism, etc etc, they are going to vote for the Democrat. Who, in turn, is against anything and everything considered aligned with the Right.

This didn’t just happen because of the Left because it got a lot of help from the GOPe, Boehner, Ryan, McConnell, et al. And continue to do so.

Personally, secession is the way to go. Enough with CW2 and more states. Just have the Red States, which make up the Southeast, Midwest and Mountain say, ENOUGH.

Biggest issue is, even in the “Blue State”, there are still very large blocs that are as Conservative as anywhere else in the country. So, it isn’t as easy as say, Illinois, being cut loose. Most of Illinois, except for Chicago and a few other areas, is as Red as it can be. Washington, Oregon, California and NY are the same way.

If those maps that show up after each elections with the Red and Blue areas are even remotely correct, the Left will be left with not a lot. The Left likes to say that without them, the Red states would whither and die. Curious to know how that would happen as the Red states have all the oil and food.


17 posted on 06/28/2021 7:45:15 AM PDT by qaz123
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