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Delta Variant Outbreak in Israel Infects Some Vaccinated Adults ["some" = half of all infections]
WSJ ^ | 6/25/21

Posted on 06/25/2021 9:42:47 AM PDT by Tipllub

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To: jstolzen

They’re under tremendous political pressure to say that.
They’re contradicted by lots of doctors who have used it successfully.
Troll.


41 posted on 06/25/2021 12:21:51 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: jstolzen

That’s funny. I found tubes of Ivermectin paste for $10 each. For horses, and the mg/kg dose is the same as for humans.

Troll.


42 posted on 06/25/2021 12:24:11 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Tipllub

Your addition to the title “some=half” is incorrect.


43 posted on 06/25/2021 12:27:15 PM PDT by tlozo
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To: grey_whiskers

So you’d take a drug made FOR HORSES, but you won’t take the vaccine - “because it’s not safe”.

Ummmmm...you might want to consider reading the following warnings on why taking the HORSE drug is not only dangerous, but downright stupid.

https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19


44 posted on 06/25/2021 1:01:14 PM PDT by jstolzen
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To: Tipllub

https://www.businessinsider.com/israel-vaccinated-most-adults-covid-herd-immunity-2021-6?op=1

1. Duh. 80% of Israelis are vaccinated. If “half” of the delta variant patients are vaccinated that means being vaccinated is FOUR TIMES as effective against the delta variant as not being vaccinated.

2. Studies indicate that, ON AVERAGE, symptoms and outcomes in breakthrough cases are orders of magnitude better than in un-vaccinated cases. Conveniently your article ignores the elephant in the room, a comparison of the severity of the cases it cites.


45 posted on 06/25/2021 1:08:20 PM PDT by nagant
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To: jstolzen

spit.


46 posted on 06/25/2021 1:18:59 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: jstolzen
Umm, Sod Off, Swampy.

I read the FDA bullcrap, it's tailor-made for propagandist trolls like you.

E.g. "For one thing, animal drugs are often highly concentrated because they are used for large animals like horses and cows, which can weigh a lot more than we do—a ton or more. Such high doses can be highly toxic in humans."

Ya notice that doesn't say such is the case for Ivermectin? Like I said, the mg/kg dosage for horses is the same as for humans; you can take the horse paste buy scale it according to your body weight.

The FDA has not reviewed data to support use of ivermectin in COVID-19 patients to treat or to prevent COVID-19; however, some initial research is underway. Taking a drug for an unapproved use can be very dangerous. This is true of ivermectin, too.

Bullsh*t. The inventor of Ivermectin got the NOBEL PRIZE IN MEDICINE in 2015 for it. Billions of doses have been given to humans worldwide.

And on and on ad infinitum.

47 posted on 06/25/2021 1:21:38 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Jane Long

The generic Invermectin is Stromectol.

Stromectol goes for $100 or so retail for (20) 3 mg pills. Discounted, it’s about $30 for 3 mg pills.

https://www.goodrx.com/stromectol

Coincidentally, that’s just about exactly the same amount FedGov is paying Moderna and Pfizer for 2 doses of the vaccine. Yet, you guys say the Pharma companies are “making billions” off the vaccines, but won’t admit (wrongly, I might add) that there are ALSO billions to be made with Invermectin and/or it’s generic equivalents. I’m sure FedGov can get Stromectol or similar for less than $30 for (20) 3 mg tablets..but let’s say it’s $10 instead. Coincidentally (again), that’s the exact cost of the J&J vaccine.

So, net..please quit with the “no money” to be made from Invermectin, because it’s essentially the exact same amount of money as the vaccines.


48 posted on 06/25/2021 1:29:09 PM PDT by jstolzen
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To: SgtHooper

Classy response to a post about someone DYING from the virus.

BTW, he was in the hospital when he died. If Invermectin, HCQ or anything else actually DID work, there were plenty of Doctors trying to save his life..so why didn’t they use them? Are you assuming they’re all evil Leftists who are just trying to prolong the pandemic by denying people “life saving” drugs? Here’s a thought..maybe all the doctors trying to save this guy’s life didn’t give him HCQ or Invermectin because they KNOW THEY DON’T WORK and would do diddly to save him.

Occam’s Razor - sometimes the simplest explanation is the right one. But keep looking for a conspiracy behind every bush. At least that’s more...fun?


49 posted on 06/25/2021 1:33:28 PM PDT by jstolzen
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To: grey_whiskers

I see you “conveniently” left out the part from the FDA’s warning about the inactive ingredients in the horse version of Invermectin being of unknown safety for human consumption. That was kind of important..

Those inactive ingredients are TOTALLY different than the inactive ingredients in the HUMAN version of Invermectin.

So, some of you are apparently OK taking a HORSE drug with unknown ingredients of undetermined safety for human consumption..yet spend a whole heck of a lot of energy bashing the vaccines as ‘unsafe’.

Makes perfect sense. Well, actually..it doesn’t. If you want to take a drug made for horses..party on! Your body, your choice, etc. But don’t expect 300 million or so other Americans to risk their own health following that idiocy..


50 posted on 06/25/2021 1:38:35 PM PDT by jstolzen
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To: jstolzen

So, some of you are apparently OK taking a HORSE drug with unknown ingredients of undetermined safety for human consumption..yet spend a whole heck of a lot of energy bashing the vaccines as ‘unsafe’.

Makes perfect sense. Well, actually..it doesn’t. If you want to take a drug made for horses..party on! Your body, your choice, etc. But don’t expect 300 million or so other Americans to risk their own health following that idiocy..
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It’s what some people do after doing their own research, seeing ill folks sent home until they get too sick to save, and listening to years of LIES from “the authorities”.

Many choose pony paste over waiting to die because they know about the lies concerning early treatment from the Almighty FraudXi and friends. We can’t get early treatment because of internal pressure in the “medical field” on docs to NOT prescribe treatments for OFF-LABEL use even though they do it millions of times per year for many other afflictions(i.e. amiodarone for A-Fib).


51 posted on 06/25/2021 1:55:22 PM PDT by JCL3 (As Richard Feynman might have said, this is reality taking precedence over public relations.)
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To: jstolzen
If the rest of it is FUD (and it is), that part is likely FUD as well.

There are formulations of horse ivermectin which explicitly contain additional active ingredients for other equine maladies, but they are marked as such.

Those inactive ingredients are TOTALLY different than the inactive ingredients in the HUMAN version of Invermectin.

Show me the MSDS for each of those ingredients, mmmmkay?

Let me know when airline pilots die or are disqualified from flying because of heart- or clotting-related complications of Ivermectin, troll-boi.

52 posted on 06/25/2021 1:57:00 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Gene Eric

Sure. You’re right. So maybe it’s 3.8 times more likely. Or maybe 4.2. The distribution thing cuts both ways.


53 posted on 06/25/2021 2:39:03 PM PDT by biggerten (Love you, Mom.)
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To: jstolzen

Give it up, dude.

I’ll continue to purchase the effective, safe and inexpensive preventatives and PASS on the risky shots that can cause lifelong adverse effects, or worse.....death.

No thanks and no sale.

Did you take these shots? Which ones? When?


54 posted on 06/25/2021 2:44:20 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: grey_whiskers; jstolzen

Let me know when airline pilots die or are disqualified from flying because of heart- or clotting-related complications of Ivermectin, troll-boi.


No kidding.

Pretty much what I said, but not as direct ;-)


55 posted on 06/25/2021 2:45:55 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: jstolzen

“So, net..please quit with the “no money” to be made from Invermectin, because it’s essentially the exact same amount of money as the vaccines.”

Studies indicate you might need 10x the normal dose to be effective against COVID.


56 posted on 06/25/2021 2:48:55 PM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: grey_whiskers

“Let me know when airline pilots die”

Like the one that crashed while mountain biking?

Like the one that caught COVID in March 2020 and spent eight month in the hospital?


57 posted on 06/25/2021 2:51:51 PM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: Jane Long

Since you asked..yes, I took the shots. Literally the 2nd day that my age group was eligible in my state. (And, to the idiot who keeps posting the Creature from the Black Lagoon meme with the “I’m OK..no reaction the shots whatsoever!”..please spare me. It wasn’t funny the first 30 or so times you posted it).

I was very happy to be able to get the vaccine..because (apparently unlike many here who prefer to listen to all sorts of Internet whackiness) did my research and understood the risk/benefit of doing so. Was there risk? Sure. But I had MORE risk of being killed in a car accident to or from my trip to get the vaccine (yeah, I actually looked that up and did the math).


58 posted on 06/25/2021 3:24:27 PM PDT by jstolzen
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To: jstolzen

Good for you....I like that you did the research and the math.

MANY of us, who have skipped these shots, have done the research, and math, on the proven preventatives/safe treatments.

We have a YUGE supply.

Sounds like we’re all set. You with your shots and us with our preventatives.

Creature from the Black Lagoon....😂....I mean....


59 posted on 06/25/2021 6:29:25 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: Flick Lives

Good point.


60 posted on 06/26/2021 12:56:56 AM PDT by Arcadian Empire
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