RE: I would think the current jab will not be any good against this...
Before concluding that a particular vaccine ( or jab in British parlance ) is or is not working against COVID-19 in a country, these are the most important questions we need to ask:
1. Are the people getting sick in Israel ( where the recent outbreak is from the Delta variant) vaccinated or unvaccinated?
This is a real no-brainer. For instance, we know there is a Delta surge in Israel. But if you look closely, unvaccinated people are getting sick at nearly 30 times higher rates than vaccinated. I’m not sure if you can blame the vaccines.
2. What is the denominator?
There was an inflammatory article about Indonesian healthcare workers getting sick after a Sinovac jab with “dozens” getting hospitalized. What it leaves out is that over 5000 healthcare workers were vaccinated in that place. Were they all exposed? How many unvaccinated people got sick? What is “dozens?” Very sloppy work. If it is true that 5000 were exposed but 350 got sick, then that’s still over 90% effectiveness.
3. What is the vaccination rate in the country?
An article from a usually reliable publication had a headline saying that cases were surging in countries that had used the Chinese vaccine. Well there are surges in the UK, US, India, even Israel where they don’t use Chinese vaccines.
Going back to item 1, how many of those who got sick were actually vaccinated and fully vaccinated? Were there many deaths among those vaccinated?
Before concluding that a particular vaccine ( or vaccines in general ) is or is not working against COVID-19 in a country, the above are the most important questions we need to ask. Have they been answered satisfactorily?
What is the definition of "getting sick"? What is your source?
If it is true that 5000 were exposed but 350 got sick, then that’s still over 90% effectiveness.
I am pretty sure that is not how effectiveness is measured. Per the initial efficacy tests that earned the Pfizer shot EUA status....
There were 2 populations: 20K in the unvaxxed group and 20K in the vaxxed group. 8 people in the vaxxed group and 160 people in the unvaxxed group ended up catching Covid in the next few months after they got the vax.
8 is 5% of 160 and thus the 95% efficacy. By your measurements, the shots would have been considered 99.9996% effective. (8/20,000)
I appreciate the thoughtfulness you have been putting into defending the shots and the government narrative. At the end of the day you will be either proven right or proven wrong. It is looking more and more like you will be proven wrong. I am sure you will say "but, I was given bad data" OR "they were lying to us the whole time. How could I have known?"
I really wish you went into your analysis with the instinct of disbelieving what they are selling and that the people releasing the research, the new stories, the data, etc... all have ulterior motives and cannot be trusted to tell the truth.
Of course, this is not to say that EVERYTHING is a lie but they are definitely steering the narrative by providing selective information.
You simply don't censor people who are debating science (as the state run media and tech are doing) unless you are afraid of where that science may lead.