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Tax experts slam Biden's mess of a 'double death' tax
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 17 June 2021 | ROB CRILLY

Posted on 06/17/2021 2:42:35 PM PDT by packagingguy

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To: packagingguy

When Democrats say “pay your fair share” they mean 100%. They want ALL the money.


41 posted on 06/17/2021 4:37:16 PM PDT by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat
We are VERY middle class my mom is 92 and we just put her house into a trust it cost us $1000.00 to do this!! Her home is paid off and being in CA. the home is now worth $950,000.00! Well worth the $1000.00 for an attorney to do this!!!

If you have an inclination, I'd really appreciate an outline of just how that works in your family situation.

42 posted on 06/17/2021 4:37:43 PM PDT by gloryblaze
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To: Rurudyne

The Estate tax is Theft. Period.


43 posted on 06/17/2021 4:41:19 PM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." -GW)
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To: Alberta's Child

Democrat politicians have sold property to their buddies for $1.. Why can’t any one else?


44 posted on 06/17/2021 4:44:34 PM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." -GW)
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To: Lockbox

That’s what really galls me. The government “manages” inflation to maybe 3% per year. The purchasing power of money goes down 3.3 times at 3% inflation over 40 years. Then the bastards tax you on your nominal gain, not your real gain.

Fortunately, our real estate value is up a lot more than 3.3X over the 40 years we’ve owned it, but we were dumb-luck fortunate to have bought in Silicon Valley. Others are nowhere near as lucky.


45 posted on 06/17/2021 4:47:20 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("Pour les vaincre il faut de l'audace, encore de l'audace, toujours de l'audace")
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To: I want the USA back

Just like estate taxes never affected the Kennedy’s.. They always hid their money overseas.


46 posted on 06/17/2021 4:50:14 PM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." -GW)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; packagingguy

Expect an increase of transfers of houses, bank accounts, etc to the next generation.


47 posted on 06/17/2021 5:11:34 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Alberta's Child

As usual, you are right on the mark AC. I’ve been in the process of doing similar things for my children over the last couple of years. I am going to look dirt poor in a year or so.


48 posted on 06/17/2021 5:12:01 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (“When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.” ― Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Alberta's Child

Is there any threshold to this proposed estate tax?

Example, someone owns a house worth a million dollars TOD’d to an heir**, and has accounts (401k, IRA, brokerage, checking, savings) totalling almost a million TOD’d to that heir and another heir.

How badly will the heirs get hit when the owner passes on?

(** In California this is possible.)


49 posted on 06/17/2021 5:18:06 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Alberta's Child; Auntie Dem

No capital gains tax on sale of primary residence?

Then what is the 500,000 exemption for couples and 250,000 exemption for singles for?


50 posted on 06/17/2021 5:22:20 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Auntie Dem

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3968732/posts?page=49#49

Pinging question to auntie Dem.


51 posted on 06/17/2021 5:24:56 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Alberta's Child

The inter vivos transfer of an apreciated asset causes the grantors original cost basis to “carry over” to the grantee. The assignment of a nominal price is not binding on the IRS.


52 posted on 06/17/2021 5:33:06 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
The "dodge" I suggest is totally legitimate -- I think. LOL.

I would absolutely advise anyone to consult with a professional before doing anything stupid based on what I post here!

Here's something else worth considering ...

1. Suppose you have two parents living in a home worth about $500,000 that has no mortgage on it.

2. Instead of worrying about "death tax" issues when they pass away, have them sell the house to you while they are still alive (as I suggested before).

3. But instead of selling it for $25,000 and facing the prospect of an IRS audit where you might face a tax problem, have them sell it to you for the full $500,000.

4. Sign them to a lease agreement where they pay you a reasonable -- but above-market -- rent to live there. Let's say that home would fetch $2,500/month on the open market. Charge them $4,000/month. If you're ever scrutinized for it, just make sure the lease includes some kind of concessions that you'd never give to an unknown renter but could easily justify the higher rent -- like the rent has no escalation for five years, you agree to do their grocery shopping for them, you'll change the oil in their cars every few months, and you will invite them to Thanksgiving dinner every year (LOL).

5. So now you basically get them to pay down the $500,000 at the rate of $4,000/month for as long as they live. If they live there for ten years, you've got $480,000 in rental revenue out of it, minus your expenses. And you have the equity in the house, too.

6. Here's where it gets interesting ... Since you are owning the property as a rental, you can probably deduct the full cost of ownership without being subject to the annual cap on state and local taxes. You can also deduct costs of ownership that you wouldn't be able to deduct for your primary residence -- like depreciation, maintenance, etc.

7. When you eventually DO sell the house, you will pay a capital gains tax based on a cost basis of $500,000 (adjusted for depreciation) ... which you would have had to set as the step-up cost basis anyway under the stupid Biden proposal if they left the home for you directly as an inheritance.

53 posted on 06/17/2021 5:34:11 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Yep. I was going to say the same thing. What about having the children placed on the deed to the home prior to the death of parents?


54 posted on 06/17/2021 6:47:08 PM PDT by TermLimits4All (Biden will never be my President. There’s only 1 option left and it won’t be pretty.)
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To: DivineMomentsOfTruth

Rose Kennedy died in Massachusetts, where she lived for the last twelve years of her life.

The Kennedy’s managed to have Rose’s estate settled in Florida, where she hadn’t lived for twelve years. Florida has no estate taxes.

How convenient.


55 posted on 06/17/2021 7:06:46 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (No masks necessary? I guess voting by mail will be eliminated for 2022 and 2024. Yippee!)
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To: packagingguy

High Inheritance tax is one of the points spelled in Communist manifesto as an Action to be done ASAP.


56 posted on 06/17/2021 7:31:40 PM PDT by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHGreco RomNQkryIIs)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

My parent put three homes and their IRAs and other investments into a revocable trust. We put out home and investments in a revocable trust for our kids, too. It’s our property. We are solidly middle class.


57 posted on 06/17/2021 7:39:42 PM PDT by FrdmLvr
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58 posted on 06/17/2021 9:47:20 PM PDT by caww ( )
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To: caww

Damn, ain’t that the truth.


59 posted on 06/17/2021 9:50:13 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Yep it is!


60 posted on 06/17/2021 10:03:02 PM PDT by caww ( )
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