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To: bgill

Isn’t this unconstitutional search? I know it’s by private individuals, but still.


4 posted on 06/16/2021 8:59:17 AM PDT by fwdude (“I do think at a certain point you've paid enough taxes.” — Not Obama)
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To: fwdude

Bingo, Bullseye. They have truck mounted wall penetrating radar, unless you have a way to make your gun safe fuzzy, they can see them from the street. Once the Govt. has its ducks all lined up, it will take 2.5 months to disarm the whole country. We’re the only people in the world who can resist. They have a running N-word target on our backs.


7 posted on 06/16/2021 9:04:22 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: fwdude
"Isn’t this unconstitutional search? I know it’s by private individuals, but still."

I believe it is but if not it most certainly needs to be illegal. People are not going to put up with this crap. I have had many debates with Freepers that searches at public venues are illegal. Being a "private business" does not grant police power to search individuals. If a business is going to be open to the public then they must accept they have no right to search anyone. Selling me a ticket to a football game does not grant a right to search me in any way they want.

Lawyers will be along any second citing court cases and such to the effect of it's their venue and their ticket bla bla bla.

If you believe this then put it to the extreme test. Lets say a venue sells tickets to a sporting event and when patrons arrive they are subjected to strip searches before being allowed to enter the venue. Is this within their right because the venue by virtue of you buying a ticket can make whatever rules they want? If strip searches are not ok then how are any searches of individual persons ok?

Lastly, ask yourself do you want every place you go to be searching you electronically? The grocery store, the 711, Home Depot, the city park, the trendy downtown sidewalk.

Is that how we want to live? If not we will need to outlaw this outrageous trend. My suggestions would be amendments to the state constitution making any searches by private entities illegal as they should be.

18 posted on 06/16/2021 9:25:50 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: fwdude
I will go one further. I have stated on FR many times in the past that searches by private entities are in fact illegal and I still maintain they are illegal on any level, electronic or otherwise.

What if you purchase new GE appliances for your home and when you purchase them the company says that they have a policy to make sure the home is safe and free of firearms so they will need to search your home before you take delivery of the appliances. This could apply to almost any business transaction. Again does a business have the right to search you or your property as a condition to doing business with them? I think the answer is clearly no.

25 posted on 06/16/2021 9:49:54 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: fwdude

No. The 4th Amendment requires government action. Burdeau v. McDowell, 256 U.S. 465 (1921); Walter v. United States, 477 U.S. 649 (1980).


30 posted on 06/16/2021 10:00:56 AM PDT by TexasGurl24
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