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Christianity’s Growth Problem Isn’t Politics, It’s Our Failure To Have And Evangelize Children
The Federalist ^ | June 15, 2021 | Joy Pullman

Posted on 06/15/2021 6:49:26 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 06/15/2021 6:49:26 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

No way would I want to have kids in this declining, dying society.


2 posted on 06/15/2021 6:56:03 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Enough. Divide the country.. now. )
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When the adults are displaying the fruit mentioned in Romans 1:18-32 (championing homosexuality in society) that is associated with first abandoning the knowledge of the Lord don’t expect the children to be taught the Gospel.


3 posted on 06/15/2021 6:56:27 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Kaslin

Yes.

Of the pairs of Christian parents whom I know closely, none of their adult children are practicing Christians.


4 posted on 06/15/2021 6:56:44 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Kaslin
There are other factors here.

I can empirically speak from my life.

We home schooled and attend an Indepent Fundamental Baptist church.

The entire family (5 kids) were involved with no evidence of rebellion or dissatisfaction until Mom wernt home in 2004.

I was a truck driver and couldn't leave my job, so we all did (2 kids left at home at the time, 10 and 13) the best we could, just like countless other families that have suffered the loss of a mother/wife.

Within 6 months, church became something disliked, youth group was stupid, the other kids were lame (etc.) and without going into details, though my kids were with family (an adult sister with kids of her own ) ... I (and now my new wife of 11 years) are the only ones that faithfully attend good, solid preaching.

I sit here on a computer (73, retired) and get an eyeful of the crap in this world and the problems in America and I guess by osmosis, my kids get the same thing and it just further alienates them.

I have no answer ... just sayin' ..... there's more going on that most Americans don't want to admit.

There IS Satan and he DOES have minions and they're doing a good job.

5 posted on 06/15/2021 7:02:14 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true !)
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To: Kaslin

Catholic Church was right about birth control. Period.


6 posted on 06/15/2021 7:09:04 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: knarf
I was a truck driver and couldn't leave my job, so we all did (2 kids left at home at the time, 10 and 13) the best we could, just like countless other families that have suffered the loss of a mother/wife.

So sorry for your loss. No one should have to experience the loss of of a parent at such a young age.

Don't give up. If children have had a good foundation in the gospel at home, they often come back to principles and values with which they were raised when they are older and more experienced in life.

Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it. (Proverbs 22:6)

Mold a child when he is young, and he will be sure to mold when he is old. (Proverbs 32: 1)

7 posted on 06/15/2021 7:31:43 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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Bookmark


8 posted on 06/15/2021 7:35:39 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: Wuli

This is what happens when you depart from Torah. Once you allow that we are not really obligated to keep all the commandments you begin to drift; imperceptibly at first. Then one day you, and your culture end up 180 degrees in opposition to the plain words of Scripture and you ask yourself “ how in the hell did I get here?,” God emphatically requires us to “observe all these commandments” because his Law is a living breathing organic whole. When you abrogate one of the commandments you weaken the whole. This is precisely the charge Jesus laid on some of the leaders in his day. This does not mean that we must keep the Torah to be saved. But is does mean that if we are true talmidim (disciples), we will keep it. Jesus exemplified it and expected all his followers to do so as well. It’s time for the SBC, and Christianity at large to admit that it made a huge mistake and begin the process of true teshuvah (repentance) that will repair the breach between Christianity and its historical, biblical roots in the revelation of Sinai.


9 posted on 06/15/2021 7:44:22 AM PDT by Torahman (Remember the Maccabees)
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None of my kids are evil, just back-slidden

They're still young, not yet old ... I'm claiming THAT element.

10 posted on 06/15/2021 7:52:11 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true !)
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You're probably not old enough to hear those beautiful words:

"I should have listened more to Dad when I was younger."

"My father used to say . . ."

11 posted on 06/15/2021 8:04:20 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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“Christianity’s Growth Problem Isn’t Politics, It’s Our Failure To Have And Evangelize Children”

NIDRI, No, I didn’t read it.

The only problems with “organized religion” is..

1. Its “organized”.

2. Its “religion”.

Religion = dividing believers into separate groups.

Denominations = dividing believers into smaller separate groups.

Churches = dividing believers into even smaller separate groups.

Bible studies = dividing believers into micro groups.

I always CRINGE at the use of the word “religion”. I am a CHRISTIAN! Not a Baptist, not a Catholic, not a Pentecostal, not a Methodist.

I am a man of “FAITH”. I have “FAITH” not religion.

It is the Christian faith because that is the ONLY REAL FAITH in the ONE and ONLY (Triune) GOD.

Your “religion” won’t save you. Your “denomination” won’t save you. Your “church” won’t save you.

ONLY the belief (”faith”) that Jesus Christ died on the cross for YOUR sins and rose from the dead. That you REPENT (say you are sorry) for your sins. Ask Him (Jesus) for forgiveness. ACCEPT His (Jesus) FREE GIFT of eternal life in Heaven.

You have to MEAN IT with every bone in your body. You must PROVE you meant it by changes in you life that reflect that you are NOW a “child of God”.

Pure FAITH! Not how many “hail Mary’s you say, not that you can speak in tongues (religious gibberish), not that you go to church on Easter and Christmas or EVERY SUNDAY/SATURDAY or EVERYDAY.

No matter how much MONEY you give. How many bible studies you attend. No matter how much you suck up to your priest, minister, pastor, leader.

To God all those things are filthy rags!

He wants your “heart” so He can save your “soul”.


12 posted on 06/15/2021 8:04:29 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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It is because the Church embraced the culture.


13 posted on 06/15/2021 8:32:09 AM PDT by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: Kaslin

Since many Christians think of sex as dirty, they tend to have fewer kids.


14 posted on 06/15/2021 9:08:46 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Jess Kitting
I'm 73, and my kids are all 20's and 30's

I have eight grandchildren

15 posted on 06/15/2021 9:22:06 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true !)
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To: Torahman

It is - in terms of “learning” - somewhat like the way the Karate Kid was taught.

Many of the Karate motions his education began with seemed nonsensical, mechanical, repetitive and, at the time “of no use”. His “master” had him doing chores for him, but with demanding ways in which each chore was to be done. Being still “blind” to the deeper truth of Karate, the kid did not understand, at first.

Later, when he had to put his learned skills into practice did the importance of the “basic training” he received make sense, and paid off.

True Christianity is somewhat like that for children and for newcomers. The fullness of understanding it, and seeing it’s real positive effects, comes with living it, not merely being taught it. And that can take time.

Knowing how to tell young people, and newcomers “you will understand in time” is sometimes the hardest part of teaching successfully. As the teaching goes on, obeying the teaching comes first, in order for the teaching to be grasped completely, in time. Just like the experience of the Karate Kid.


16 posted on 06/15/2021 9:33:27 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli

There some real wisdom. Thanks!


17 posted on 06/15/2021 9:41:14 AM PDT by Torahman (Remember the Maccabees)
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To: Kaslin

Just like us Jews your problem is that you kowtow to every social freak out there and you put GOD in the back seat.


18 posted on 06/15/2021 9:50:39 AM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: Kaslin

This thread contains many valid points that add up. I would like to point of a couple: no parents are responsible for their kids ( sins of the father will be on the father and sins of the sons will be on the sons). Many previous “christians” were not truely christain. God is separating the wheat from the chaff.


19 posted on 06/15/2021 11:16:39 AM PDT by jimfr
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

It’s ironic since the Catholic bashers on here are always claiming everyone they knew who grew up Catholic is now an ex-Catholic. Articles like this suggest the opposite. Looks like a lot of people who are raised “Evangelical” don’t stick it and go apostate.


20 posted on 06/15/2021 1:38:31 PM PDT by BillyBoy ("States rights" is NOT a suicide pact.)
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