Posted on 06/06/2021 11:36:13 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
Approximately 3,000 mail-in ballots counted in the Nov. 3 election were supposedly cast by UCSB students residing in a voting precinct that, along with other dorm buildings, includes the Francisco Torres/Santa Catalina Residence Hall at 6850 El Colegio Road in Goleta.
Problem: Due to COVID-19, the Torres Building, which normally accommodates 1,300 students, was empty and locked down through most of 2020, as were all other UCSB dorms.
This means no students/voters were residing inside the Torres Building (nor any of the other dorms) during the election season.
That’s because there’s a second problem: These ballots could not legally have been forwarded to students where they were actually living.
Why not?
Because forwarding ballots to alternative addresses is a felony.
Questions: Did someone at the Torres Building hijack ballots, mark and file them? Or did someone illegally forward the ballots to students living with their parents elsewhere?
THE CRIMINAL COMPLAINT
Thomas Cole of Analytics 805, which monitors elections, uncovered the Goleta precinct’s voting irregularities during the course of his routine analysis. Alarmed by the phantom ballots he’d pinpointed, Mr. Cole called the Santa Barbara District Attorney’s Office for advice on how to file a criminal complaint alleging Fraud Corruption of the Voting Process.
(Excerpt) Read more at newspress.com ...
The complaint, and "investigation" (?)
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Said Cpl. Little, “We sent it to the D.A.’s office to sort out jurisdiction.”
“To whom may I speak with at the D.A.’s office who knows about this?”
“It doesn’t work like that,” replied Cpl. Little. “It happens electronically.”
Which sounds awfully like a black hole.
“Because forwarding ballots to alternative addresses is a felony.”
I’m not saying this is wrong, but nothing in the article backs this line up. Is there any proof that this isn’t allowed in California?
Any vote-by-mail ballot application that is mailed to a voter by a person, group, or organization shall be non-forwardable. Any vote-by-mail application that is returned to the elections official as undeliverable shall not be forwarded by the elections official. (Elections Code § 3008(b).)
Absolutely. 3,000 votes in one place is a lot of votes mishandled.
And nobody wants to handle that hot potato admitting who handled it.
A felony is a serious crime.
And at that link. There is an official downloadable form in .pdf format.
It would not let me right click and send you the actual link.
It is a felony to forward applications or the ballot.
A felony is only a serious crime when it is successfully prosecuted.
Thanks, but unless I’m mistaken that seems to be about vote-by-mail application forms, not the ballots.
The other way to investigate is to interview some of the students who were supposed to be living in the dorms.
Did they get mail forwarded from the dorms? Did they receive a forwarded ballot? Did they vote in the election? Did they find a discrepancy when looking at their ballot confirmation at voterstatus.sos.ca.gov ?
A little investigative journalism should be able to uncover the names of students who were registered to vote in the dorms.
In 2020, CA had almost 100% mail-in ballot. They at least said the sent every voter a ballot by mail. (I think the courts said Newsom did not have the authority to do what he did.)
Now if the ballot is not deliverable where it is addressed, how is there a chain of custody on the ballot.
I did not find a reference to the exact situation in their election code. (the state of CA did not follow their own code anyway this time.)
You are not going to convince me that 3,000 ballots were returned by the rightful owner of the ballot when it was impossible to take delivery.
If mail is forwarded, the postal service has records. But the school was basically closed for the year. I would bet that less than 5% were actually delivered to the the intended person.
The way this incident was handled by the police and the black hole surrounding the ballots delivery. Someone else filled out the undelivered ballots.
I don’t want to argue with a newbie to FR about CA election law. I do know about elections. I’m 73 years old and have been through many elections as an election official.
As I am writing this, I have in front of me my official vote by mail ballot for the 2020 election.
I voted in person at my local Accessible Voting Location. I took the unused ballot with me and showed it to the poll worker and requested an in-person ballot. The poll worker told me he had voided my mail-in ballot in the system (no duplicate vote) and I was directed to go pick up my printed ballot. I waited as a ballot was printed out for me, and I used that to cast my vote.
The mail-in ballot has "return service requested" printed on it.
According to the United States Postal Service,
https://pe.usps.com/text/qsg300/Q507.htm
"Return Service Requested
"No forwarding, only return. New address notification provided.
"Mailpiece returned with new address or reason for nondelivery attached."
It wasn’t somebody at the dorms, it was somebody in the UCSB mailroom.
Yes, if the building was empty, no mail could be delivered. I get that. And it may be related to the postal employees or it may be closer to the party apparatus. Which is what I suspect.
I doubt we will ever know the outcome of this.
OK, that makes sense. In that format there is chain of custody of the ballots.
I know many pockets of Democrat strongholds where the abuse of the process is so crystal clear that they don’t even care if you know it. It has been going on for many many years.
Electronic voting machines have made the issue of control Much Much worse.
Contrary to the Lying Media, There is and has been widely spread voter fraud for a long time. BUT this time was the absolute worst ever. Never anything even close as far as corruption is concerned. I’m not young, it was the Worst.
I bow to your expertise as an elections official and your experience.
Quoting some other thread I can't recall, someone had said voter fraud/election fraud has been treated as "cute" and an acknowledged little evil, but now that evil has grown up and consumed everything. It's no longer "cute" if it ever was. "Cute" if it's known in little pockets or localities, like that box of ballots found floating in Lake Merritt (Oakland CA) years ago. Not so cute when it has crystallized and seized the whole system. Now there is no longer any mobility, any voice of the voter. It's horrifying. It must be named and exposed and fought until utterly destroyed.
Absolutely Agree. 100%. The solution for this crime will NOT come from DC. The only way it ends is at the State and local levels. We have never had an issue locally with voter fraud. But Big Cities in Texas do have one and is it getting more flagrant. But the State of Texas does prosecute people for voter fraud. The loonies are discovering that there are serious penalties to such things.
I would put my money on a unionized school employee in the mailroom. They are the ones with the most unwatched access to student mail.
Every postal carrier is a union employee and a potential source of stolen ballots. How many trays of “undeliverable” ballots got diverted?
I am not aware of any dorm rooms open on Texas college campuses last year, except to house foreign students and some hardship cases. I am sure that there are exceptions but I am not aware of them.
How about just comparing the number of votes from voting precincts that fall within a college campus, with the number of students living there. No personal information just the raw numbers.
We can get the entire list of Texas colleges from the NCES database. A FOIA request to state schools starts the process, and a request to private schools that use public funding starts the process elsewhere.
In my dream world Texas would do a true audit of, say, the ten largest counties in Texas; and for balance, the ten smallest counties in Texas. Just knowing how many people signed into the voting rolls and comparing the numbers with the numbers of votes counted would be instructive.
Here is the link to the company cited in the article:
The CDC recommendations to isolate coincided with their Spring Break. All students were sent home except those that simply couldn't get home.
Spring Break was extended by one week, and then the campus went all virtual learning for the rest of the Spring.
There is no on-campus residency during the summer.
The campus opened up for the Fall with the CDC guidelines in place. That has continued this Spring, although the differing recommendations from the CDC and the Governors Office have made it interesting for the college to comply.
Since the college accepts Pell Grants and VA college benefits they are required to comply with a host of rules. All CoViD cases (staff and student) are reported to the CDC, along with the required test results and the health plan that is in place for that particular case. Thankfully there were no major outbreaks on campus, just a few of the older employees.
There is no legal reason that this review couldn't be ordered by the Governor or the Legislature. A private group could try (e.g. True the Vote), but plenty of roadblocks can be erected to slow walk the entire audit.
Thoughts?
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