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A Possible Why For The Clotting Problem Of COVID-19 Vaccines
American Council on Science and Health ^ | 05/29/21 | Chuck Dinerstein, MD, MBA

Posted on 05/31/2021 4:03:53 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX

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To: VanShuyten

I wonder when they will have a vaccine for autism. Er, against autism...


61 posted on 05/31/2021 11:21:58 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: sageburn

Grandma always said “never do a permanent solution to a temporary problem”. I have found this to be wisdom...


62 posted on 05/31/2021 11:33:56 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel

Wise grandma, those from that generation were not easy to fool and they knew “if it looks to good to be true...” Plus they trusted their own eyes and relied on their common sense.


63 posted on 05/31/2021 11:40:16 PM PDT by sageburn
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To: Republican Wildcat
Name names.

Explicit, verbatim quotes with links to FR posts, or it didn't happen, troll.

64 posted on 05/31/2021 11:47:32 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Based on the flawed PCR testing only about 70,000 died worldwide. Based on the VAERS reports either 4,900, 49,000, or 490,000 have died so far from the jabs in the US.


65 posted on 06/01/2021 12:06:38 AM PDT by USAF80
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To: Pining_4_TX
"the viral piece of DNA - deriving from an RNA virus - is not optimized to be transcribed inside of the nucleus.”

Whoever wrote that description does not know that the transcription occurs in the ribosomes--not the nucleus.<{> So this Spike Protein goes wandering through the human body inside the lipid nanoparticle until it encounters its target antigen presenting cells (APC). Then it attaches and fuses on the cell wall and downloads it payload into the cell where it enters the machinery of the robosomes for the translation process and the presentation of the Spike Protein on the surface of the host cell's membrane where they bind to the MHC-1 and MHC-2 complex molecules.

The lipid nanoparticle protects the Spike Protein from being destroyed by the immune system before it can get into the translation machinery. This protein is no more lethal than that raw salmon you eat at that sushi bar. I have a sister who had a life threatening reaction to crab. Her system does not like crab protein swirling through her body. Good thing for her there was Epinephrine.

66 posted on 06/01/2021 12:27:24 AM PDT by jonrick46 ( Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

The mRNA technology has been studied since Hungarian born biochemist researcher, Katalin Karikó in 1990, learned that mRNA told cells which proteins to make. What is new is the breakthrough technology that is used to deliver the bluprint RNA message to the translation machinery of the target cell’s ribosomes. That medical miracle is the lipid nanoparticle.


67 posted on 06/01/2021 12:42:07 AM PDT by jonrick46 ( Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Maybe you are allergic to crab, like my sister. My sister almost died from eating crab. Our 96 year-old grandmother eats crab, peanut butter, sushi—everything. She even had some Protien Spikes in their lipid nanoparticle flowing in her veins along with the protein of a nice steak. She can still hit the hole from a 20 foot putt. 15-20 feet PGA Tour percentage: 18.3%.


68 posted on 06/01/2021 12:52:41 AM PDT by jonrick46 ( Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

I have been trying to help. It’s simple math.... mRNA is a single strand of nucleotides, a protein is a folded complex structure. 1+0=1, so it is using your cells nucleotides to create this. Problem is.. is it using free nucleotides, or is it unwinding dna to do so. Can’t know that.
In addition, genetic engineering has been used for a while to target therapy.
So if they want to target a group, like the virus may have, they can do so. Mendeleev medicine.


69 posted on 06/01/2021 3:28:02 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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To: jonrick46

Are you trying to say that the lipid nanoparticle encloses the Spike Protein?

Or does it encapsulate the mRNA? Which is then taken to the
ribosome where it is used as a template to build the spike protein?

And why are you bringing EITHER of those points up, when the jabs under question are the adenovirus based jabs, which don’t use a lipid coating, but a whole virus, whose genetic payload DOES go to the nucleus?

You sound like one of those “Because SCIENCE!”™ type posters.


70 posted on 06/01/2021 8:01:09 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Jane Long

Thanks!
Check this out. NOT confirmed by me. The woman claims she got a letter from Moderna asking her in for cervical cancer screening as (if I heard right) 1500 female recipients of the Moderna jab got cervical cancer?

https://gab.com/Havoc17/posts/106335503296364578


71 posted on 06/01/2021 8:37:20 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Yeah....I saw that a couple of days ago.

Someone on the Twitter (??) thread asked her to post a copy of the letter she received. Not sure if she ever did.

I’m sure if others received this same letter, they’d have also posted, by now.

I’m putting that one in the No Sale column, for now :)


72 posted on 06/01/2021 8:45:55 AM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: grey_whiskers

Long, but good read.


73 posted on 06/01/2021 8:58:53 AM PDT by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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To: grey_whiskers

The lipid nanoparticle encloses the Spike Protein in its RNA form (The COVID virus is actually a RNA virus). The lipid nanoparticle is designed to attach to only the antigen presenting cells (APC) with the mRNA vaccines. I haven’t studied the adenovirus based vaccines enough to answer your question.

I’ll get back later.


74 posted on 06/01/2021 7:40:11 PM PDT by jonrick46 ( Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: jonrick46

OK, you literally have no idea what the living hell you are talking about.

Proteins are completely, utterly different chemicals than RNA.

There is no such thing as a protein in RNA form.

You might want to reconsider getting your news from Jimmy Kimmel, ok?

I’m willing to work with you but you have to admit when you don’t know, or admit when you’ve been wrong.


75 posted on 06/01/2021 8:06:34 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

The messenger RNA is the genetic material that our cells read to make proteins. After injection, the vaccine particles bump into cells and fuse to them, releasing mRNA. The cell’s molecules (in the Ribosomes) read its sequence and build Spike Proteins. It is these proteins that I wrote about. The mRNA from the vaccine is eventually destroyed by the cell, leaving no permanent trace.

Some of the spike proteins form spikes that migrate to the surface of the cell and stick out their tips. The vaccinated cells also break up some of the proteins into fragments, which they present on their surface. These protruding spikes and spike protein fragments can then be recognized by the immune system.

When a vaccinated cell dies, the debris will contain many Spike Proteins and protein fragments, which can then be taken up by a type of immune cell called an antigen-presenting cell. It is these loose Spike Proteins, I believe, you are concerned about.


76 posted on 06/01/2021 11:21:06 PM PDT by jonrick46 ( Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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