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CCP ‘Outwardly Strong, but Inwardly Weak’: China Expert
Epoch Times ^ | 05/26/2021 | Adam Molon

Posted on 05/26/2021 8:31:58 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Noted China expert Roger Garside stated on Monday that the Communist regime of China is “outwardly strong, but inwardly weak” during a discussion on the potential for regime change and democracy in China hosted by the Hoover Institution at Stanford University.

Garside, a British former diplomat who was stationed in China, as well as the author of “China Coup: The Great Leap to Freedom” and “Coming Alive: China After Mao,” called the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) “fearful,” and stated, “The regime which rules China today is totalitarian, not authoritarian.”

He said that while the CCP works to project a strong image, it has a number of foundational weaknesses that are endemic to a totalitarian regime.

“The prevailing view is that this regime is strong and stable and will rule China for the foreseeable future. But I contend that this regime is outwardly strong and inwardly weak. This supposedly all-powerful regime is actually powerless to resolve a whole array of deep-seated problems that plagued China for years, indeed decades. Why? Because these problems are actually the product of the totalitarian system.”

Among the problems cited by Garside is China’s economy and its burgeoning mountain of debt. Economic growth has long been seen as essential to the maintenance of basic social stability in CCP-ruled China, where citizens are not granted fundamental human rights, including freedom of speech, press, and religion.

“First, the economy, which has recorded spectacular growth, is now itself beset by serious problems. The transition to the market economy, which liberated the energy of the Chinese people was stopped in its tracks in 2008 by the Communist Party. The commanding heights of the economy, including banking, utilities, and transport were kept in the state sector. Why? Not for economic reasons, but for political ones. The Party feared that to allow private companies to occupy the commanding heights in the economy would destroy its political monopoly,” Garside stated.

“To compensate for the inefficiency which has resulted from stopping the transition, the state has been pumping vast amounts of credit into the economy to maintain an artificially high growth rate, because it fears the unemployment and corporate defaults which would result from lower growth. The result is a debt mountain. No nation with a debt mountain as high as China’s has ever reduced it without either recession or prolonged inflation.”

Orville Schell, Arthur Ross Director of the Center on U.S.-China Relations at Asia Society, said that the economy would likely be the central determining factor for a future regime change in China.

“I would say, I think if there’s going to be a change in China, it must come from within China. And if I had to say how will it come, it will probably have something to do with the economy,” Schell stated. “All economies are cyclical, and when China hits a bad cycle, that’s when it will be tested, as we were tested in 2008, as we were tested just recently. And we’ll see how that goes.”

In addition to citing policies intended to maintain economic growth that have allowed severe degradation of China’s natural resources and environment, as well as a “moral crisis” stemming from corruption within the CCP, Garside said that the CCP fears several factors—including truth, desire for democracy, and religion within China—as evidence of structural weakness, and asserted that the Chinese people live “in a condition of political slavery.”

“This supposedly mighty regime is fearful. It fears truth. The [Chinese Communist] Party has always hidden the truth about events of immense importance in the history of its 70-year rule. It fears democracy. It has suppressed freedom in Hong Kong because of its fear that the attachment to democracy and the rule of law of just 7.5 million Hongkongers would infect the 1.4 billion inhabitants of the mainland, whom it keeps in a condition of political slavery,” Garside stated.

“It fears religion. It’s alarmed by the explosive growth of all major religions in China since 1979. Alarmed that so many men and women should regard God, rather than the [Chinese Communist] Party, as the supreme authority in the universe. So, it’s persecuting religion to a degree not seen since the death of Mao. Its strategy of cultural genocide in Xinjiang and Tibet are the most extreme manifestations of this.”

Teng Biao, an academic lawyer and human rights activist who was formerly a lecturer at China University of Political Science and Law, said that the CCP is afraid of what he called a “blood debt,” resulting from injustices endured by the Chinese people since the CCP’s rise to power in China in 1949.

“One thing many people have ignored is the Communist Party’s ‘blood debt.’ Since 1949, the Chinese Communist Party has committed extremely cruel anti-humanitarian crimes, like, here’s a list: from the killing of landowners, Cultural Revolution, Tiananmen Massacre, to the ongoing Uyghur genocide,” Teng said. “The top leaders really are afraid of the retaliation from the people, and they don’t believe that the Chinese people will forgive their ‘blood debt.’”

The result of the CCP’s fear and its denial of human rights and freedoms to the Chinese people, Garside continued, is a lack of trust between the CCP and the Chinese people.

“All these factors have combined to create a lack of trust between the people and the regime which rules them. Since 2011, the budget for internal security has exceeded that for the military. The regime fears internal dissent more than it fears its foreign enemies,” Garside said.

“But the lack of trust is not only an internal problem. It also poisons China’s international relations. Abroad, as at home, distrust has been dramatically intensified by the cover-up of the origins of COVID-19. This is part of a wider alienation of the U.S. and its allies. Countries which once engaged with China in benign partnership have now become hostile. Trust will not be restored until there is a change of political regime in China.”



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ccp; china; weakness

1 posted on 05/26/2021 8:31:58 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Sounds like Biden will fit right in the culture.


2 posted on 05/26/2021 8:43:27 PM PDT by Dennis M.
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To: SeekAndFind

If y6ou have internal problems that are causing the regime to be on shaky ground, divert people’s attention by starting a war somewhere. An old, old technique...


3 posted on 05/26/2021 8:54:04 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: SeekAndFind

China has always been a no-trust culture. Now that is so on a scale that makes catastrophe all but inevitable.


4 posted on 05/26/2021 9:02:07 PM PDT by Noumenon (The Second Amendment exists primarily to deal with those who just won't take no for an answer. KTF)
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To: 17th Miss Regt; Travis McGee

Let’s explore that further. If you’re going to have a distracting war, who would it be against?

I’d say you wouldn’t want to take on the USA as we’re still potentially too strong to assure a good outcome. They play the long game, and they don’t need to take us on too soon.

So who would they attack?

S. Korea?

Vietnam?

Philippines?

India?

Taiwan?

All have potential for bad outcomes.

Korea and Japan are closely allied with the US and could result in bringing the US into the fray, which I see them unlikely to be willing to chance.

India might be good, but is a nuclear power and has bested China in recent conventional scuffles.

Taiwan would seem likely, but is China ready for the economic disruption that would entail? Plus, what happens if Taiwan pulls a Sampson strategy and nukes the Three Gorges Dam?

With Vietnam, what would the pretext be? Plus China has gotten their nose bloodied in border clashes with Vietnam in living memory. Vietnam arguably had some of the best large units of light infantry in the world at that time.

The Philippines are more problematic than they might appear at first glance, and might drag Japan and the US into a conflict.

It’s not an easy choice, I shouldn’t think.

Maybe a defaulting African client? Start that takeover? That might be the most reasonable choice for them. The issue there is, are they ready to project power that far?

Any other ideas?


5 posted on 05/26/2021 9:15:29 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: SeekAndFind

Regime change in China in the next 20 years would not surprise me at all.

But a democratic republic replacing it would surprise the hell out of me.


6 posted on 05/26/2021 9:15:31 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: FreedomPoster

“Any other ideas?”

The paper tiger is screwed for all the reasons you mentioned.

Still, at some point they’ll be desperate enough to do something stupid.

My money is on Taiwan. And I believe it’s a fight they cannot win. They would be faced with crossing 90 miles of open ocean with 500,000 men, plus equipment.

And half or more would be lost in the crossing. Terrible losses never before seen in amphibious warfare.

And even if they virtually leveled the island with missiles and bombs, they would still have to root out a million men with rifles once they arrived.

And that’s the best of all their options. Excepting MAYBE Vietnam.

At least they can walk home from Vietnam.


7 posted on 05/26/2021 9:26:37 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: SeekAndFind

This makes them dangerous as hell as they will lash out in order to leverage external power for internal control.


8 posted on 05/26/2021 9:49:13 PM PDT by GraceG ("If I post an AWESOME MEME, STEAL IT! JUST RE-POST IT IN TWO PLACES PLEASE")
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To: SeekAndFind

So they’re weak? The US is hobbling itself in every way, socially, economically, and militarily. The US is so busy degrading itself it matters not if China has some minor weaknesses.


9 posted on 05/26/2021 9:53:38 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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To: FreedomPoster

The Chinese Communists have American allies who eagerly want to weaken the U.S. Some do it for the money and perks, others do it for free out of ideology. That way China can attack an enemy without firing a shot.


10 posted on 05/26/2021 10:43:34 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: FreedomPoster

No need to rush. At the rate the US military is deteriorating, if Biden/Kamala gets a second term they may be able to get major gains via Anschluss and Munich-like threats.


11 posted on 05/26/2021 11:19:37 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: SeekAndFind

Chinas’ leadership would crumble if every western leader didn’t kiss their ass for some reason.


12 posted on 05/26/2021 11:40:20 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: FreedomPoster
TAIWAN


13 posted on 05/27/2021 3:30:56 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Mariner

Pls see 13


14 posted on 05/27/2021 3:34:17 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

Here’s a similar explanation by Matt, an American who lived, worked, and married in China for 10 years - during the Deng years - then fled with his family for their lives under Xi Jinping. If you take the time, you will understand how today’s China works and why it is weak internally, compared to how it used to work under Deng.

Should YOU Be Worried About China? (Honest Answer + Analysis), 1 hr 23 minutes (background is filmed street scene in some Chinese city).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aqMcUao0Os


15 posted on 05/27/2021 4:35:34 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Travis McGee

China does not have the ability to make their dreams come true.


16 posted on 05/27/2021 8:55:06 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Who will stop them from taking Taiwan? Our Woke SJW navy under Biden?


17 posted on 05/27/2021 9:53:02 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

If the USN and USAF are ordered to intervene, they will do so decisively. Not s single PLAN vessel would make it to the beach.

Even absent US intervention, Chinese losses would be historic. And invasion a failure.


18 posted on 05/27/2021 10:35:12 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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