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To: palmer
Japan has very few vaccinations: https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2021/health/global-covid-vaccinations/ Just 7 doses per 100 people. India has 14. Here's the plots of cases and deaths for Israel https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/ They have 122 doses per 100 people. The vaccines have not caused cases and deaths in Israel.

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I prefer to trust the people on the ground reporting what they are experiencing themselves, and physicians collecting information directly from hospitals. You prefer the press releases of the corrupt officials running the scam.

The Israeli People`s Committee Report of Adverse Events Related to the Corona Vaccine, April 2021: Never has a vaccine injured so many.

Those who insist the opposite of the truth (e.g., people like you) would have us beleive that it's a crazy conspiracy to acknowledge people sickening and dying after a year of lies and gaslighting from the Medical Oligarchs.

They lied about the PCR test (it's not valid). They lied about asymptomatic cases and spread. They lied about HCQ and Ivermectin. They lied about one key element of this farce after another but you insist that there's no basis to believe they would harm the public interest.

Pfizer gave Israel financial interest in their vaccine, and in return Israel signed up its population to be Pfizer's Phase III experimental 'vaccine' trials.  A government wishing to protect its population doesn't 'volunteer' it's unwitting population as experimental trial participants, especially without even telling them. Suddenly Israel had medical aparteid - passports or you can't function in public, go to school go to work etc. This isn't a government with interest in its people. The government of Israel is abusing the public and they are being harmed. This is obvious.

The same is true for the US, for Japan, for India. Wherever the coordinated efforts of the billionaire power grabbing elites has influence, the public is suffering. It's not a shock to see the fatalities rising after vaccination, especially when drug treatments are denied.

It would be bizarre to witness all that government and Gates/Soros 'elites' have done to innocent citizens world-wide and see no ill effects. Keeping people at home with medical terror/propaganda so they are too fearful to have regular medical  screenings or go  to the hospital for chest pains/shortness of breath would naturally be reflected in higher mortality to which the 'elites' do not object.

You can't make the case that, after over a year of escalating abuse of the public trust (Fauci/Wuhan/CDC inflated numbers/CDC 'mandates'/Masking against all the science/lockdowns like we're prisoners), the corrupt governments of the world (Xiden, Billionaires etc. included) are fighting to force vaccinate because they suddenly care, and the entirety of the fake pandemic, which they still vigorousl support, was all a misunderstanding.

The damagine 'vaccines' are compatible with the overall, tireless, illegal biowarfare many of the corrupted in the governments of the world are waging against us.

It's coming out into the open now. For example, people are starting to admit that the PRC is useless. Soon, they'll realize that means the entire Covid-19 was assymetrical medical warfare against the individual.

You can't sell, "oh but the 'vaccines' are unlike everything else the corrupt government/'elites' been doing to us for years."

You can't make the case that, "Even though the corrupted medical/gov/billionairs have been working to destroy your faith (churches) freedom to assemble, health (masks, lockdowns), employment, free speech, mental health (isolated in nursing homes, but forcing in Covid patients), nation, economy, sovereignty, family, society, borders etc., they only want to force experimental vaccination because they are all about protecting you." 

The damage to nations world-wide is intentional and focused. There is no way this much illness and death, and broadspectrum societal damage could happen in this coordinated fashion by accident.

Prayers up for the public's health and safety, and may God strethten and protect all those rising to expose the oppression and violations (incl. Nuremburg Code) of the medical oligarchs (public/private, foreign/domestic) whose actions have made the word 'elite' a revolting epithet.

We will never be free again unless we reject the CDC, NIH, FDA, and all those (Gates/Soros) enemies foreign and domestic waging biowarfare on innocent citizens, the latest salvos of which, are 'vaccines'.

75 posted on 05/24/2021 4:32:19 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote
They lied about the PCR test (it's not valid). They lied about asymptomatic cases and spread. They lied about HCQ and Ivermectin. They lied about one key element of this farce after another but you insist that there's no basis to believe they would harm the public interest.

Asymptomatic cases and spread is definitely possible, but it takes a superspreader type of individual to do that. See the German meat plant. One employee came in and passed the temperature and symptom checks., washed his hands, wore his mask, and stayed 2 meters from other employees. He spread it to 80 people as far away as 8 meters. This is solid science now and should have been acknowledge last spring.

HCQ is an immune regulator and mainly an immune suppressant. It works well in people who's immune systems are overactive trying to fight the virus. In Europe they give it along with an anti-viral and antibiotic so the body doesn't try to overpower the virus itself. Its value as prophylactic may only be in a subset of young people with strong immune systems. I don't know much about ivermectin, but I believe the doc who went on Tucker who gives that as part of a combination treatment. Too many people are looking for or promoting one silver bullet when there isn't any The medical establishment has been rejecting some treatments and there are many vested interests involved.

I agree the vaccines are oversold and their safety is unknown. But the rises in cases in Japan and India have nothing to do with vaccines since their vaccination rates are low.

The damage to nations world-wide is intentional and focused. There is no way this much illness and death, and broadspectrum societal damage could happen in this coordinated fashion by accident.

I still believe the initial beaker hitting the floor in the lab in Wuhan was an accident although I have know way to know that. But I believe the virus was deliberately spread in the US starting in December 2019. I have circumstantial evidence, but I think scientific evidence will emerge quietly in papers that document the early spread. The scientists won't conclude that someone spread it here, but that's not their job.

Certainly the insane responses, like locking up healtthy people, shutting down health care for people with other conditions, killing the economy, wiping out one year of childrens lives, etc are not accidental. Some of it might be chalked up to panic or ignorance.

The #1 problem IMO was reducing mass transit to crowd more people on buses and trains. That made it absolutely unstoppable due to wide spread from hubs in NYC, Detroit, and New Orleans. You could argue that was accidental, since many transit workers wisely stayed home during the time of greatest risk. People with the right information will do the right thing, but as you point out almost all the information was bad.

As for vaccines (not in quotes), I'll try to remember to ping you when I get my antibody test results. I'll do the second test in about 1.5 weeks. First test was negative a few weeks before the J&J. Just one person who is not dead and might get some antibodies which might be protective is an anecdote. But I am partial to this particular anecdote.

76 posted on 05/24/2021 5:19:58 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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