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Washington’s public universities change admission requirements
my northwest ^

Posted on 05/20/2021 10:06:28 PM PDT by algore

Beginning in fall 2021, the University of Washington, Washington State University, Western Washington University, Eastern Washington University, Central Washington University, and Evergreen State College will be “test optional” going forward.

Schools across the United States have recently been dropping the SAT and ACT tests as a requirement out of concern that the tests are not good indicators of college success, and because higher income students are more likely to have paid for extra SAT or ACT tutoring, which could put others at a disadvantage.

“The decision, in terms of reducing further barriers and strengthening our engagement with students in the admissions process had led to this decision,” said Dr. Julie Garver, senior director of policy and academic affairs with the state Council of Presidents.

“[The test score requirement] was potentially negatively impacting the college-going culture here in Washington,” she added

(Excerpt) Read more at mynorthwest.com ...


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KEYWORDS: aa; act; sat; washington
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New entrance requirements, do you have cash, or qualify for a loan?

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1 posted on 05/20/2021 10:06:28 PM PDT by algore
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Left dumbing down the entire education system.
The move to the focus on money over entrance test scores, etc. has long been in the works ever since Uni’s started focusing on retention programs for students who had/have absolutely no business being in college/Uni. Can also thank the Left for utterly gutting trade schools, etc. as well. All part of the plan.


2 posted on 05/20/2021 10:11:10 PM PDT by cranked
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I think it’s a bit of a myth that rich people pay for their kids to take SAT coaching and that makes a difference. It’s a straw man. Very few parents really do this.

Here’s the truth: taking the SAT more than once will raise the score. There’s more math, for one thing, after a few more months in high school.

Rich people are “blamed” for paying for SAT tutors. The truth is, an SAT prep book from the library works just as well. And guess what? Rich kids even WITHOUT tutors do well on the SAT. It’s somewhat genetic, somewhat learned. . .rich kids’ parents take those kids to museums and Civil War battlefields and their vocab is just better.

I have 3 boys that did better on their SATs than their GPAs would predict. They did no special SAT prep or studying at all, but they were readers and went to museums. . .

It’s a shame to get rid of the SATs. They are a good counterbalance to grade inflation and other negative, biased high school (indoctrination?) factors. SATs are—or were—a good onjective measure of latent promise. Sometimes boys in particular are just late bloomers. An SAT shows that.

Thank God all three of my boys had the SAT. It helped them get into college in each case. And with no test prep.


3 posted on 05/20/2021 10:15:47 PM PDT by olivia3boys
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We need to make collage entrance easier so we can admit as many students as possible to fill our coffers with borrowed money. What part of ‘this is a business’ don’t you understand?

And if you disagree, you are a racist.


4 posted on 05/20/2021 10:26:27 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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Minorities were scoring too low on SATs, while Asians were scoring too high on SATs. Doing away with SATs makes it easier for college admissions committees to do Affirmative Action in college admissions. It’s that simple.


5 posted on 05/20/2021 10:32:40 PM PDT by DeweyCA ( )
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To: algore

Reducing America to yet ANOTHER lowest common denominator.

As if incoming college students could tell you what that means even!


6 posted on 05/20/2021 11:03:30 PM PDT by Oscar in Batangas (An Honors Graduate from the Don Rickles School of Personal Verbal Intercourse)
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To: algore

dailycollegian.com/2019/01/time-to-rethink-affirmative-action/
Dr. Thomas Sowell pointed out that in 1987, of all the Black students admitted to UC Berkeley under affirmative action, more than 70 percent failed to graduate. The median SAT score for Black students in that entering freshman class was 952 while for whites and Asians, the median scores were 1014 and 1254, respectively. Despite this wide variation, every group’s median SAT score was well above the national average. In short, students in that entering class who failed to graduate from Berkeley were perfectly capable of graduating from any average American college.

Another thing that Sowell has pointed out is that often the students who are the first in their family to go to college wind up in a useless degree program; they would be better off going to a good technical college like Lake Washington Technical School.


7 posted on 05/20/2021 11:05:46 PM PDT by Piers
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To: DeweyCA

Minorities were scoring too low on SATs, while Asians were scoring too high on SATs. Doing away with SATs makes it easier for college admissions committees to do Affirmative Action in college admissions. It’s that simple.
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This 100% accurate. Too many Asian’s and whites in college. Then they’ll pass them too just to make sure they pass the class.


8 posted on 05/20/2021 11:06:30 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: olivia3boys

But for the SAT, it’s highly unlikely that I would have been admitted to the university that I attended... let alone awarded a cash scholarship. Without a standard metric like the SAT, it’s impossible to compare applicants among the hundreds or thousands of high schools. The level of subject-mastery that earns you B at one place might get you an A+ somewhere else... and vice-versa. Heck, even within the same high school, there can be variability in terms of course-load rigor. I had good but not perfect grades in high school. I was never going to be admitted to college as an athlete, legacy, donor’s kid or affirmative action case. My SAT scores were indicative of my ability to not only do the work but also outperform some of the kids with perfect GPAs. Take away the SAT, and I’m in the rejected applicant pool.


9 posted on 05/20/2021 11:15:41 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: algore

Read later.


10 posted on 05/20/2021 11:19:22 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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Listening to local news here, it sounds ke like the school wants to know how good of a social warrior you were in high school.

Academics and the ability to learn sound secondary.


11 posted on 05/20/2021 11:33:09 PM PDT by llevrok (I'm old enough to remember when the quarantine was to be 2 weeks)
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The American Marxist must be stopped. We’re a Country of Excellence, not Marxist scum.


12 posted on 05/20/2021 11:41:46 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: algore

just take a dump on the sidewalk

that the new entrance exam


13 posted on 05/20/2021 11:48:04 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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All the older libtards, the socialists, are for this

because they know all of this will kill off a lot of people

letting stupid people believe they are smart and then let them become doctors and engineers and officers

they know this will help greatly reduce the population


14 posted on 05/20/2021 11:50:19 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: DeweyCA

I was a VET returning to college. The kids around me could be my son or daughter. I was doing refresher courses English 101 and Algebra. Most flunked right out.


15 posted on 05/21/2021 12:10:37 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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Time for Washington (and all other public institutions in all other states) universities to throw out the mainly Indian and Communist Chinese foreign students from the universities. Give them last preference. Not first, as is done now. Why are 44% of UCSD students Chinese Communist?


16 posted on 05/21/2021 1:14:18 AM PDT by Starcitizen (So Indian H1B crybaby trash runs Free Republic moderation??? Seems so. )
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To: algore

That is exactly it. But, their loans will be forgiven.


17 posted on 05/21/2021 2:19:22 AM PDT by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo)
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To: DeweyCA

What you end up with....probably around 50-percent of first-year students discover $25k into the debt situation...that they can’t deliver in college. So they end it at the first year, but have this debt situation on their back for the next ten years.


18 posted on 05/21/2021 2:24:10 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: algore

New entrance requirements, illegal? or the right skin color welcome!


19 posted on 05/21/2021 2:40:07 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: algore

Washington public “universities” will just make themselves community colleges. Not all are going to drop SAT requirements and the better students will go to real universities.


20 posted on 05/21/2021 3:25:29 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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