[lizma2]

“That we lost.”

In 84 I went backpacking in Europe meeting up with relatives.

Met up with one who was 18 y.o. at the start of the war and fought for Germany.

He said prior to the war Hitler made them feel like the whole world was coming after them. And they believed him.

With time they started to hear about the rumors of cruelity. A Jewish neighbors and friends of his parents disappeared one day. Towards the end of the war they were figuring out that Hitler was evil. He told me the best day of the war was when he arrived at the American’s German POW camp. He was treated better there than any German military camp!

Also on that trip went to meet family in the Socialist Utopian of Yugoslavia. I was shocked. What a police-state trash heap.

[Steve Van Doorn]

I used to work with a guy that was a Nazi youth. He told me stories I wish I recorded them now. Though he generally said was young and stupid. It was near the end of the war in Berlin life he said wasn't worth a "plumb nickel" he would say that over and over.

I could feel he was leaving something important out of the story because he kept repeating that life wasn't worth a plumb nickel and how some kids where "gun ho." His mission was to live. He would say no one gave a damb about each other.

He wanted to press the feelings he had at the time you could sense it in his face as he spoke.