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To: dynoman
"Obviously that doesn’t automatically mean the vaccine did not cause the event. You act like all the events can be blown off."

Not at all. I'm neither claiming that all VAERS reports are inaccurate, nor claiming that no reports in VAERS describe an issue that was actually caused by a vaccine. If that were the case, I would say VAERS is useless and should be shut down as a waste of taxpayer money. I'm NOT saying that.

What I'm saying is just what the people who operate VAERS say: that individual reports in VAERS are subject to any number of problems and have no causal link established. That the data in VAERS has a lot of noise. That the PURPOSE of VAERS is to help identify PATTERNS which a worth investigating for possible links to unexpected side effects. THAT is the purpose of VAERS and the only proper use of any data in VAERS.

Individual reports are useless. VAERS will tell you that. In fact, they tell you many, many times on their site that the individual reports are often incomplete, inaccurate, or unrelated to any vaccine. When patterns emerged, they're investigated. When those investigations discover a link, new guidance and warnings are provided. In extreme cases, a medicine may be pulled off the market or heavily restricted.

VAERS does have a lot of value, but misusing it as a definitive anthology of vaccine problems is wrong. It's not a valid use for VAERS at all. And VAERS says so themselves.

186 posted on 05/17/2021 9:46:41 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

“Individual VAERS reports are useless”

Which ones? Can you tell me?

Covid19 vax, death,
https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=MAN&EVENTS=ON&PERPAGE=20&ESORT=VAX-DATE&VAX=COVID19&DIED=Yes

Covid19 vax, disabled,
https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=MAN&EVENTS=ON&PERPAGE=20&ESORT=VAX-DATE&VAX=COVID19&DISABLE=Yes

Covid19 vax, life threatening
https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=MAN&EVENTS=ON&PERPAGE=20&ESORT=VAX-DATE&VAX=COVID19&L_THREAT=Yes

Covid19 vax, serious
https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=MAN&EVENTS=ON&PERPAGE=20&ESORT=VAX-DATE&VAX=COVID19&SERIOUS=ON

Covid19 vax, died, Administered-by is ‘Senior Living’
https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=MAN&EVENTS=ON&PERPAGE=20&VAX=COVID19&V_ADMINBY=SEN&DIED=Yes


190 posted on 05/17/2021 10:00:41 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Here’s a pattern. All vaccines except covid vs covid vaccines, serious. Remember the covid vaccines have been in use for six months;

Covid 19, serious, 192,954 cases
https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=SER&EVENTS=ON&VAX=COVID19&VAXTYPES=COVID-19

All vaccines except covid, serious, 79233 cases.
https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=SER&EVENTS=ON&VAX[]=ADEN&VAX[]=ADEN_4_7&VAX[]=ANTH&VAX[]=CHOL&VAX[]=DF&VAX[]=6VAX-F&VAX[]=DPIPV&VAX[]=DPP&VAX[]=DT&VAX[]=DTAP&VAX[]=DTAPH&VAX[]=DTAPHEPBIP&VAX[]=DTAPIPV&VAX[]=DTAPIPVHIB&VAX[]=DTIPV&VAX[]=DTOX&VAX[]=DTP&VAX[]=DTPHEP&VAX[]=DTPHIB&VAX[]=DTPIHI&VAX[]=DTPIPV&VAX[]=DTPPHIB&VAX[]=TD&VAX[]=TDAP&VAX[]=TDAPIPV&VAX[]=CEE&VAX[]=JEV&VAX[]=JEV1&VAX[]=JEVX&VAX[]=SSEV&VAX[]=TBE&VAX[]=HPV2&VAX[]=HPV4&VAX[]=HPV9&VAX[]=HPVX&VAX[]=HBHEPB&VAX[]=HBPV&VAX[]=HIBV&VAX[]=MENHIB&VAX[]=MNQHIB&VAX[]=HEPA&VAX[]=HEPAB&VAX[]=HEPATYP&VAX[]=HEP&VAX[]=FLU(H1N1)&VAX[]=FLU3&VAX[]=FLU4&VAX[]=FLUA3&VAX[]=FLUC3&VAX[]=FLUC4&VAX[]=FLUN(H1N1)&VAX[]=FLUN3&VAX[]=FLUN4&VAX[]=FLUR3&VAX[]=FLUR4&VAX[]=FLUX&VAX[]=FLUX(H1N1)&VAX[]=H5N1&VAX[]=FLUA4&VAX[]=LYME&VAX[]=MEA&VAX[]=MER&VAX[]=MM&VAX[]=MMR&VAX[]=MMRV&VAX[]=MEN&VAX[]=MENB&VAX[]=MNC&VAX[]=MNQ&VAXTYPES[]=Adenovirus&VAXTYPES[]=Anthrax&VAXTYPES[]=Cholera&VAXTYPES[]=Dengue&VAXTYPES[]=Diphtheria&VAXTYPES[]=Encephalitis&VAXTYPES[]=HPV&VAXTYPES[]=Haemophilus&VAXTYPES[]=Hepatitis A&VAXTYPES[]=Hepatitis B&VAXTYPES[]=Influenza&VAXTYPES[]=Lyme&VAXTYPES[]=Measles&VAXTYPES[]=Meningitis&SERIOUS=ON


191 posted on 05/17/2021 10:07:40 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Here’s a pattern.

Covid deaths reported to VAERS in six months; 4,057

All vaccine deaths except covid reported to VAERS the last ten years; 1,467

Check it yourself; https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/index.php


193 posted on 05/17/2021 10:14:10 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
And VAERS says so themselves.

Ahhh, VAERS says so themselves.

I guess we can all go home now. And get in line for the railcars. Errr, I mean the vax.


215 posted on 05/17/2021 11:36:35 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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