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Gasoline shortages have begun…
citizens free press ^ | may 11 2021 | Kane

Posted on 05/11/2021 5:46:06 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter

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To: C210N

“”Regs regarding making trucking an option to the pipeline.”””


Trucking is not an option to replace a pipeline that can ship 2.5 million barrels per day.

There are not enough tanker trucks sitting idle waiting for such a calamity to happen.

One tanker truck can hold 200+ barrels of product.

I will leave it to the mathematicians to calculate how many trucks would be needed to transport 2.5 million barrels per day from Houston and Louisiana refineries to the East Coast.


101 posted on 05/11/2021 6:28:24 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: CodeToad

Waiting for Biden to proclaim that electric-powered vehicles are the solution.


103 posted on 05/11/2021 6:29:32 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

“Operating a petroleum products pipeline is a complex operation.”

I’ll buy that but a lot of the complexity must be to save money. That’s laudable, but how about a less complex, more expensive, more reliable, more low-tech way of running the pipelines.


104 posted on 05/11/2021 6:29:46 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: dynachrome

Actually, the nude pics are often not clicked on because people have become aware of that being a vector. Some still do, of course.

These days, the most common vector is Mabel or Edna clicking on a blatant phishing attempt or going to look up recipes or clicking on an infected chain letter link that one of their idiot friends sent.


105 posted on 05/11/2021 6:29:54 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

100% correct.


106 posted on 05/11/2021 6:30:09 AM PDT by TexasGunLover
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To: TexasGunLover
Air gaps (as proved by Stuxnet) aren't really effective anyway.

Airgaps were effective at blocking remote take-over of Iran's centrifuges. That's the problem Colonial Pipeline faces today.

Where Stuxnet succeeded was in having intricate knowledge of the firmware and code the centrifuges were running and designing specific code/malware that could be injected easily and remain undetected until it was too late. That still required a physical presence at a network point or the hardware itself to inject it. That physical presence required spies/Israeli agents/some other actor.

We're talking two different kinds of intrusion here and they're not an apples to apples comparison.

The majority of intelligent posters disappeared years ago.

Sigh ... I try and remain optimistic.

107 posted on 05/11/2021 6:30:51 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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Democrats wanted high gasoline prices in the past, as I recall.

Fuel shortages will further fan the social fires they’ve ignited.

They want civil war. Then, they can institute martial law and grab full control over us — their dream.


108 posted on 05/11/2021 6:30:51 AM PDT by polymuser (A socialist is a communist without the power to take everything from their citizens...yet.d)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
Diesel will be impacted just as much as gasoline.

If Colonial cannot get the pipeline operating soon, expect to see some big rigs sitting.

Eventually everything comes by truck. Remember that when they can't get gas or diesel.

109 posted on 05/11/2021 6:30:58 AM PDT by Don Corleone (leave the gun, take the canolis)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

The ransomewere can only hold data ransome. Operations can be restored by restarting the systems from a clean backup.

This is an intentional government operation.


110 posted on 05/11/2021 6:31:25 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: cymbeline

80% of modern pipeline flow would go away then. Computers and high tech are needed for safety and speed. Failing that, you’re looking at *hours* between product changes instead of minutes and you’d have to hope Joe the Drunken Former UAW Worker was sober enough to turn the wheel on the diverter knob all the way.


112 posted on 05/11/2021 6:31:51 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: usconservative

Excellent post. Exactly what systems were breached? Was it strictly financial data that got jacked? If so they must have backups.

Was it the process control systems? Are there not separate redundant systems? This is a major fail by what is suppose to be a top tier infrastructure.

It’s not like this company, Colonial, did not know the risks. If Congress were not so incompetent, there should investigate what happened. But then again, have you seen the members of congress? My dog is smarter than most of them.


113 posted on 05/11/2021 6:32:02 AM PDT by CodeJockey (Dum Spiro, Pugno)
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To: usconservative

I am NOT in IT...and I’ve questioned the loading of software to “clouds” for years


114 posted on 05/11/2021 6:32:31 AM PDT by goodnesswins (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution." -- Saul Alinksy)
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To: Born to Conserve

Ah, no. That’s just it. Colonial doesn’t *have* backups from what I’m hearing. They cheaped out.


115 posted on 05/11/2021 6:32:36 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
Good luck getting older execs and leaders to understand why these need to be fixed, let alone to approve the needed work. “It’s worked fine, we don’t need to change it.”

Hammer meet nail.

116 posted on 05/11/2021 6:32:45 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: goodnesswins

This isn’t a cloud problem. This is an idiot problem.


117 posted on 05/11/2021 6:32:55 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: FreedomPoster
The FBI put a dozen plus agents into a NASCAR garage over a noose-like door pull, but can’t seem to deal with hackers disabling key national infrastructure.

Or with crooks stealing an election.

118 posted on 05/11/2021 6:33:15 AM PDT by KevinB (''... and to the Banana Republic for which it stands ...")
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To: nevergore

“””It’s being reported that they move 100M/gal a day.....”””


And 42 gallons equals one barrel of petroleum.

The 42 gallon barrel is a petroleum industry holdover from the past when horse drawn wagons hauled 42 gallon wooden barrels from the wells to a refinery.


119 posted on 05/11/2021 6:33:17 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: kabar
Waiting for Biden to proclaim that electric-powered vehicles are the solution.

May turn out to be the post of the day.

120 posted on 05/11/2021 6:33:26 AM PDT by CodeJockey (Dum Spiro, Pugno)
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