Posted on 05/08/2021 1:00:31 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
60v1 (I just redid a zillion tabs today and couldn't find it)
For the record, I’m pro-vax and anti-”our feral government opening the border, inviting, and continuing to distribute thousands of “disease carrying invaders” across our country during a “global pandemic”...”
for the record...
i’m not an anti-vaxxer...
i’m a nonbeliever...
nice to meet you... 😁
More childish, ignorant insults from a brainwashed Branch Covidian Cultist.
Shouldn’t you and your fellow travelers be watching your Globalist rock concert dedicated to your “ MAGICAL!!” Experimental vaccine?
Having a concert dedicated to a damned vaccine is an incredible display of dangerous mental illness.
Some of the “masterminds” behind your concert are virulent Anti-Americans such as Harry and Meghan Markle, Jimmy Kimmel, Ben Affleck, Oprah Winfrey and more.
I assume that you are proud to be associated with such esteemed Globalists and nutcases.
Thanks.
Leading off with puerile insults about you're opponents' stupidity -- unless you have specific quotes demonstrating it, *and* tnose quotes aren't just cheap shots -- is a trademark of liberals.
What's your IQ and education please?
well, well, well, lie, lie, lie. How many people a dead from the vax?? mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
If fools really want to blow up our best chance at beating this virus, why don’t you just enlist the help of the Center for Science in the Public Interest?
Post 41 is the most important of this thread!
Oh, “LifeSiteNews” - not to be confused with the credible LifeNews.
Love how they refer to Pfizer and Moderna as “mRNA vaccines” as though mRNA is not involved in the J&J and AZ vaccines. Either clueless or being deliberately misleading.
It should concern people during a global pandemic and not during a global pandemic. Other diseases we had nearly eradicated within our borders have also made a comeback.
Beyond embarrassing.
If it’s caused by the spike protein, they are no longer produced by the cell once the mRNA has dissipates, so the window of time for the vaccine itself to be cause would be a short window of time.
This is only a theory, but J&J and AZ vaccines are probably more likely to cause clotting as the concentration of spike proteins are probably higher as there is more spike protein produced as more and more mRNA is produced with those vaccines. The initial mRNA dissipates, but the DNA remains in the nucleus and continues to produce more of the mRNA until the cell dies, meaning there will be a cluster of cells with a lot more spike protein on them vs. the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines. That is probably why J&J is only one dose vs. two doses as the former produces more mRNA and spike protein than the latter in which the mRNA is gone and therefore the instructions to produce more spike proteins also disappears with it. But the chances of clotting being a possibility can’t be zero with Moderna or Pfizer if the spike protein is the culprit - even though the chances may be considerably less due to a lower concentration of the spike proteins.
What’s bizarre about some of the arguments is that some argue that it is better to get the virus than get vaccines with mRNA to make the spike proteins, even though, obviously, if you get a COVID19 infection, you will get many, many times mRNA in your body with the instructions to make the spike proteins (indeed, the whole virus) - that’s how a virus reproduces - by using the cells of its host. We continue to have people who have no clue what a virus is and how it infects you making bold statements / opinions about a topic for which they lack even basic knowledge and don’t even try to learn.
Are you saying that like it’s a bad thing???
Love how they refer to Pfizer and Moderna as “mRNA vaccines” as though mRNA is not involved in the J&J and AZ vaccines. Either clueless or being deliberately misleading.
Wrong.
Pfizer and ModeRNA are the only mRNA China virus shots, currently.
Niether J&J nor AZ are.
🙄
Here are some helpful links for you....
So, the VERY credible LifeSite News has it correct, AGAIN.
And, you seem to be the one who is ‘clueless’ or ‘being deliberately misleading’.
Do you do this often?
As usual, you are completely incorrect. It is completely impossible for instructions to be delivered to ribosomes to produce these proteins without mRNA carrying the instructions to them. Do you not know that? You have apparently done zero actual research as to how these vaccines work, even all this time later and continually spouting strong opinions about them.
J&J and AZ send DNA into the cells’ nuclei that they enter. The DNA then encodes the same mRNA and sends it out into the cytoplasm to instruct the ribosomes to make the spike proteins. The mRNA will then dissolve, but as long as the cell remains alive, more and more mRNA can continue to be produced with the DNA in the nucleus.
This is very, very basic knowledge anyone who has studied this issue would find very quickly. You have not studied it at all - facts don’t seem to be what interest you - just false narratives and propaganda.
As usual you are utterly obtuse and rude!
Here....you can go notify this publication and 100s of others on how ‘completely incorrect’ THEY are, too....
mRNA vaccine
Vaccines that use this: Pfizer, Moderna
How it works: mRNA or messenger RNA may be labeled as the newest vaccine in town, which is true, but as we have previously reported, the technology surrounding it is not entirely unknown, as mRNA research has been in the works since the 90s. This type of vaccine injects instructions, via a piece of genetic code, that tell your body how to make a certain protein essential to blocking the virus. “The mRNA vaccines instruct our cells to recognize COVID-19 and produce a harmless “spike” protein,” explains Dr. Lee. These proteins train your immune system to recognize the virus and make antibodies to attack that virus if it arrives in your body. The instructions quickly vanish, but your immune system stays fortified.
Vector vaccine
Vaccines that use this: Johnson & Johnson, AstraZeneca (not yet available in the U.S.)
How it works: Vector vaccines are made from a modified version of a live virus, says Dr. Lee. Those harmless viruses—in this case, an adenovirus, which is a version of the common cold—are sent into your body containing an instruction manual that tells your cells to make a spike protein; a harmless piece of the SARS-CoV-2 virus (that’s the one that causes Covid-19). Vector vaccines will not give you Covid-19. Your body starts to make antibodies to this so that if the real spike protein comes around on the Covid-19-causing coronavirus, the antibodies will attack it and ultimately help defend your body. If you’ve had an MMR (measles, mumps, and rubella) or chicken pox vaccine, these work in a similar manner.
https://www.menshealth.com/health/a35589366/mrna-vs-traditional-vaccine/
Now....saw off and stop bashing LifeSite and get to work on notifying all of the MSM and other news outlets about how completely wrong they are.
We know it’s cause they have to keep the case rates up to justify pushing the “vax” and continuing the masks and lock downs.
Derek Lowe (long time blogger, PhD from Duke, postdoc in Germany, drug discovery chemist with a career going back decades) says that Pfizer and Moderna are "mRNA vaccines" in a discussion of mRNA in injections for COVID, and doesn't even mention AstraZeneca and JnJ.
Can you double-check, please?
I see an elementary flaw in your argument. Do you?
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