Posted on 05/05/2021 10:15:04 AM PDT by Hojczyk
It is more than two weeks incomplete. The other thing to consider is that this is oild news. https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3879540/posts Slightly different chart but the same principle. The data is provisional.
That said, there will eventually be a dearth of death since the a lot of the death was displaced (premature by months or a year or two).
People live for decades with multiple health conditions. One person with obesity, hypertension, diabetes, and heart disease (the latter three all significantly affected - if not caused entirely - by the obesity) can live 20, 30, 40+ years with those conditions. They may not have a great quality of life, but they can still spend plenty of time with the kids and grandkids.
I see plenty of obese people around me. I certainly care if they all start dying. Something will eventually kill all of us. It matters when that something takes a bunch of time away. The author has zero data to support this claim that deaths in 2021 are going to suddenly drop. They sure haven’t so far.
True he doesn't have the data, yet. But it will happen, later this year. That's due to the short life expectancy of 93 year olds. The obese people who died from COVID were a relatively small number.
Instead of using the CDC as a source, Worldometer monitors in real time, local and regional health departments, and they use the reporting dates instead of the actual date of death, as the CDC does.
From this, one can clearly see the trend that the numbers have indeed been dropping like a rock, although there was a slight uptick of cases (and now deaths twenty days after that). But cases are once again dropping pretty fast and so too should deaths.
About the specific point in the article, are you disagreeing with the point that many or even most people who are dying, would probably have died within a year from some preexisting disease??
Check posts 21 and 26. :)
check post 26 :)
40% of counties take longer than 10 days to update. A few take up to 8 weeks to update death reports.
So you basically need to wait two months to confirm the actuarial hypothesis. It’s also normal and has been noted previously with severe influenza seasons, so this isn’t unexpected.
Breaking the economy and worsening the prospects of the young and healthy in a futile attempt to extend the lives of the old and ill was an ill conceived Faucian public health experiment.
This is going to bankrupt our Social Security system.
They were going there anyway. (Arianna Huffington)
I go with what I can observe. I know people all over my county. Usually through the winters I get reports of Flu from this or that friend. Winter of 2019 Flu was rampant across the whole county and reports were that it was the “worst” Flu they had and so many were dying. During the winter of 2020 I got zero reports of Flu from across the county. None. There were several reports of Covid 19 in the county in 2020. My own son and all his family had it. I have not feared Flu or Covid. I’ve never had the Flu and I don’t fear Covid and I am very old. Had no vaccines. I’m so sure that the government is always lying it gives me some peace of mind.
I go with what I can observe. I know people all over my county. Usually through the winters I get reports of Flu from this or that friend. Winter of 2019 Flu was rampant across the whole county and reports were that it was the “worst” Flu they had and so many were dying. During the winter of 2020 I got zero reports of Flu from across the county. None. There were several reports of Covid 19 in the county in 2020. My own son and all his family had it. I have not feared Flu or Covid. I’ve never had the Flu and I don’t fear Covid and I am very old. Had no vaccines. I’m so sure that the government is always lying it gives me some peace of mind.
I go with what I can observe. I know people all over my county. Usually through the winters I get reports of Flu from this or that friend. Winter of 2019 Flu was rampant across the whole county and reports were that it was the “worst” Flu they had and so many were dying. During the winter of 2020 I got zero reports of Flu from across the county. None. There were several reports of Covid 19 in the county in 2020. My own son and all his family had it. I have not feared Flu or Covid. I’ve never had the Flu and I don’t fear Covid and I am very old. Had no vaccines. I’m so sure that the government is always lying it gives me some peace of mind.
“So you basically need to wait two months to confirm the actuarial hypothesis. It’s also normal and has been noted previously with severe influenza seasons, so this isn’t unexpected”
How promptly are Covid deaths communicated?
“This suggests those people did not deserve a year or two of life additional.”
No it doesn’t. You discredited your objectivity going here.
You sounded objective and analytical until then.
“Based on what I’ve seen watching that page over the past year pretty frequently, you need at least 8 weeks to get ~95% of the total deaths reported. By about 12 weeks, you have a fairly solid number.”
How rapidly are Covid deaths relayed to the CDC?
Same pace as any others. Most of it’s just bureaucratic red tape. Reporting jurisdiction needs to collect the data from however many data points there are, then verify everything is accurate and complete, then forward them to wherever they go next (often the city, county, or state health department), then when they’re ready there, they forward them up the chain.
There can be several steps each with their own set of delays before CDC sees anything. Some areas have process built in for quick turnaround. Some areas don’t.
So CDC data is useless according to you, until at least three months after the fact.
Who monitors Covid deaths in a more real time way?
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