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Victor Davis Hanson: How Much Ruin Do We Have Left?
National Review ^ | 04/22/2021 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 04/22/2021 7:17:47 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Edited on 04/22/2021 7:43:26 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

As Americans know from their own illustrious history, any nation’s well-being hinges on only a few factors. Its prosperity, freedom and overall stability depend on its constitutional and political stability. A secure currency and financial order are also essential, as is a strong military.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: america; decline; ruin; vdh
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To: BobL

Quit using the term jackass, here or anywhere else. It’s an anti-White racial slur.


41 posted on 04/22/2021 9:42:52 AM PDT by Az Joe (FREE CHAUVIN!)
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To: Az Joe

You are one of the few people who understand what the whole “Karen” symbolism is all about.


42 posted on 04/22/2021 9:49:48 AM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: LongWayHome

yep


43 posted on 04/22/2021 9:58:48 AM PDT by Az Joe (FREE CHAUVIN!)
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To: SeekAndFind

When? This only has to do with timing. If the dems are successful in codifying the election fraud, very soon.

If reps are successful in minimizing the fraud, it can be delayed but for how long. The LEFT will continue to ratchet this country to the LEFT.

The LEFT owns the levers of power and now they want the police.

The LEFT’s 100 year march thru the institutions has been very successful. Now that they have shifted to race warfare from class warfare, their march has gained speed.


44 posted on 04/22/2021 9:59:08 AM PDT by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: SeekAndFind
VDH usually finds the right balance of hindsight and foresight. This one lacks the foresight and feels a little smashed-out-in-the-moment.

What VDH knows, what Trump knows, and what Rush was often so good at elaborating:

The solution is to simply round them up and incarcerate them for at least a generation. The same people that don't care that the 2020 election was stolen, won't care if these people are put away. Guaron-teed.

Trump was going there in 2019-2020 -- think Portland Mystery Machines writ much larger -- and he will go there in 2024, but it's up to US to address the electoral laws that we will need to prevent 2020 from ever happening again.

45 posted on 04/22/2021 10:19:33 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Eric Coomer of Dominion Voting Systems Is The Blue Dress)
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

And the Eastern Empire lasted a thousand more years, I don’t think we will.


46 posted on 04/22/2021 10:26:15 AM PDT by ABN 505 (Right is right if nobody is right, and wrong is wrong if everybody is wrong. ~Archbishop Fulton John)
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To: SeekAndFind

The secular mind points to the cultural markers.

They ignore the spiritual markers.


47 posted on 04/22/2021 10:31:51 AM PDT by lurk ( )
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To: Az Joe

“Quit using the term jackass, here or anywhere else. It’s an anti-White racial slur.”

Actually, the worst Karens are in Burma, shooting up police stations. Here they’re just a-holes.


48 posted on 04/22/2021 11:14:05 AM PDT by BobL (TheDonald.win is now Patriots.win)
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To: SeekAndFind

49 posted on 04/22/2021 11:28:50 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: SeekAndFind

National Review, where VDH is a contributor, certainly can’t credibly feign any surprise or indignant opposition to the ruinous path on which we now find ourselves. I would say they contributed in large part, but that would be giving them way too much credit. Instead of focusing on and celebrating Trump’s multiple, positive, pro-American initiatives and successes, National Review as a whole derided him for being an inelegant embarrassment. They could not count on him to be predictable in his responses. He spoke as if in spontaneous conversation (minimal use of or reliance on a teleprompter) - and did not provide answers with the customary nuanced delivery that would allow press secretaries and media interpreters to tell us that what we had heard was in no way aligned with what he had said.
He delivered results. He did not lose our trust.
However, this wasn’t enough for NR.
Their rejection of Trump amounted to their hearty endorsement for the inevitable destruction that is JBiden&Co. What did they expect?


50 posted on 04/22/2021 11:37:28 AM PDT by ItMatters2Me
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To: SeekAndFind
What amazes me is how those elites in charge of the government seem to think that they will survive whatever comes next relatively unscathed.

I don't know what it will take to make them feel threatened that they could lose it all right along with the rest of us.

I don't know what safe zone they think is waiting for them that the rest of us cannot be a part of.

-PJ

51 posted on 04/22/2021 11:38:49 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (* LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too

I am of the same thought. Do these elites really think that they will not be harmed at all? Or their kids or grandkids?

They are all dangerous combinations of ignorance and arrogance.


52 posted on 04/22/2021 11:44:10 AM PDT by Texas resident (Dimrats=CPUSA)
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To: SeekAndFind

VDH went down a few notches in my esteem when he said that Trump should just move on after January 6. Give up. I forget whose show he was on when he said it. The implication was that PDJT caused the riots and chaos.


53 posted on 04/22/2021 11:52:00 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("if I perish, I perish." Esther 4:16)
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To: Rummyfan
I ask myself this after the most current outrage but within two weeks another occurs and we go even lower

Just spotted this hammer-meet-nail pin on Pinterest this a.m.:

54 posted on 04/22/2021 12:57:56 PM PDT by Oatka
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To: SeekAndFind

VDH is right, as always, but one factor was left out of his equation.

Us. You and I, fellow citizen. We the People are, still, the underlying force in these United States.

So what do WE do? How do we fight this decline? (Dare I ask: Who do we shoot?) I fear what a “leader” might look like, but we need one.

We The People are screaming in anger and terror as our beautiful ship of state sinks beneath us. One voice in the darkness could lead us, if we hear it before the waves close in.


55 posted on 04/22/2021 1:06:47 PM PDT by DNME (... at that awkward stage. Too late to work within the system; too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: Big Red Badger

The Left are destroying this nation in every way possible.

It’s astonishing how many fools are seemingly on board with it, too.

I meet them all the time.

No doubt they’d be commenting on how great the steaks and asparagus were, even after the Titanic hit the iceberg.


56 posted on 04/22/2021 2:47:54 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Noumenon

VDH is talking. Too bad almost no one is listening.

L


57 posted on 04/22/2021 2:49:58 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. , )
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To: Lurker

VDH is a latter-day Cassandra.


58 posted on 04/22/2021 2:59:59 PM PDT by Noumenon (The Second Amendment exists primarily to deal with those who just won't take no for an answer. KTF)
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To: MHT
Durant could not be published today. I'm glad that I have his works in hard copy.

2000 years or so ago, Titus Livy, in his introduction to his monumental History of Rome remarked that his purpose in writing was "to trace the progress of our moral decline, to watch, first, the sinking of the foundations of morality as the old teaching was allowed to lapse, then the rapidly increasing disintegration, then the final collapse of the whole edifice, and the dark dawning of our modern day when we can neither endure our vices nor face the remedies needed to cure them."

We have arrived at the point where the remedies needed to cure us of the dreadful vices of the Left are nothing less than fire and blood.

59 posted on 04/22/2021 3:08:58 PM PDT by Noumenon (The Second Amendment exists primarily to deal with those who just won't take no for an answer. KTF)
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To: SaveFerris

Interesting that you
Mentioned “Titanic” as
The movie makes me think
of this Nation.


60 posted on 04/22/2021 6:55:12 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (Be Still and Know that I Am God. Rev 19)
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