[billyboy15]

“From COVID alone, not very many.”
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Which is NOT being reported by the lame stream media. Of course this is deliberate and all part of the Leftist plan to spread their fear porn.
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“From COVID plus something else they would have died from: the jury is still out”
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Sure the jury is out simply because the reported deaths from this Virus from the Left Wing Media include deaths from many causes other than China Virus.

[palmer]

The jury is out simply because displaced deaths will result in lower deaths this yea and that hasn't happened yet. Hundreds of thousands of people died last year, but we don't know how premature those deaths were. That's very important for everyone, unless you are close to death, in which case it doesn't matter.

Suffice to say, by the time those facts are in, about a year from now, the media will have moved on to their new bogeyman hobgoblin.