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*** Flubros and Flubras ! *** ( A place to see the Butchers Bill for “It’s just the Flu”)
Worldmeters.info ^ | 4/22/2021 | Kozak

Posted on 04/22/2021 3:24:32 AM PDT by Kozak

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To: palmer

Hear’s the thing. I and many like me have come to doubt every single number coming from any government agency when it comes to China Virus. The credibility from these sources id effectively ZERO.

When I see a report from a physician whose credentials are not questioned but whose research findings are banned from public view it is as plain as can be to me what is going on. What surprises me is the seeming acceptance of this sort of thing by so many.


21 posted on 04/22/2021 5:00:35 AM PDT by billyboy15 (')
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To: Kozak

Irish Government can not provide evidence that Covid19 exists.

https://www.brighteon.com/fc560392-faaf-46ef-80ee-97fbb2cfa331


22 posted on 04/22/2021 5:06:03 AM PDT by Captain7seas (Don't resist, after all you will get a free shower.)
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The federal government is classifying the deaths of patients infected with the coronavirus as COVID-19 deaths, regardless of any underlying health issues that could have contributed to the loss of someone’s life.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/07/feds-classify-all-coronavirus-patient-deaths-as-covid-19-deaths/


23 posted on 04/22/2021 5:08:42 AM PDT by roving
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To: billyboy15
I don't believe the CDC either. But I collected some state numbers like Louisiana and those confirm the increases in deaths from 2019 to 2020 found in the US as a whole in the NCHS (part of CDC) numbers. So people who say the CDC is lying about the crude mortality numbers are themselves lying.

The only remaining issue is how those extra deaths came about. That will be quietly studied by real scientists who will release their real results in a few years only to be deplatformed by the corporate media. Nonetheless the information will get out. Real science cannot be censored.

24 posted on 04/22/2021 5:39:25 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: roving

There’s thousands of cases where people have died in accidents, strokes, etc and they were listed as a covid death so the hospital can collect $15k.


25 posted on 04/22/2021 5:50:31 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (One Nation, Under Fraud Completely Visible, With Spying and Lying Too All.)
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To: Kozak

More fear porn?

You ought to be zotted.


26 posted on 04/22/2021 5:51:33 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (One Nation, Under Fraud Completely Visible, With Spying and Lying Too All.)
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To: palmer

When you consider the increase in deaths and subtract from that number the deaths caused by lack of medical care both preventive and symptom based along with deaths caused by increased suicides along with drug and alcohol caused deaths what then are you left with?

The bottom line is we knew almost from the beginning the correct and easiest most effective path to take in minimizing deaths from this China virus. All that needed to be done was to advise our seniors they were the most susceptible along with what to do to prevent them from getting this illness. Instead the Left decided to destroy the worlds economy and allow untold numbers of people to die and all done in an attempt to “reset the world order” which they hoped to accomplish by destroying DJ Trump along with anyone else who saw thru their BS.

In the end whatever the numbers who died the blood is on the hands of the Left (not that they care) and it is this fact which needs to be spread and re enforced day after day until people wake up to the realities of the world we live in today. They also need to be told again and again that only THEY can change the course we are now on.


27 posted on 04/22/2021 5:58:49 AM PDT by billyboy15 (')
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To: Kozak

Roses are red,
Covid is cruel,
Lockdowns are worse,
And Kozak’s a ghoul.


28 posted on 04/22/2021 6:26:29 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: billyboy15
I agree the story has to get out but it needs to include the fact of the deaths and lethality of the virus, which we can estimate at 0.2% at a minimum (the worst flu is 0.1% and usually the flu is less lethal). The lethality started out about 0.5% but has dropped.

The story has to include the fact that the swine flu directly killed 1000 children in 2009 while Fauci/Biden/Obama put all the government investment into a single vaccine that failed. The story has to include the fact that children are immune from COVID and should not have been kept home. The story has to include that countries like Sweden had equal deaths per capita that we did, but will be much healthier after this pandemic especially their children who were able to live normal lives and go to school. In fact almost every European country sent their kids back to school with no harmful effects.

They also need to be told again and again that only THEY can change the course we are now on.

I agree there was far too much apathy by conservatives. blue collar and union members last year. Some believed luchbucket Joe's lies and nonsense, and others had white guilt, or global warming fear beaten into them. We need to keep telling the truth about who the democrats really are and what they really want. They want, among other things, a vaccine "passport" which will be used as a social credit score like the Chinese communists use.

29 posted on 04/22/2021 6:57:38 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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Well, we mostly agree except when it comes to numbers such as the “.2% fatality rate” which is a bogus number as much as the .5 number was. The fact is the death rate will not be known until AFTER the China Virus runs it’s course and even then with all the bogus numbers being bandied about an accurate number will never be known.


30 posted on 04/22/2021 7:07:49 AM PDT by billyboy15 (')
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“Actual dead from the pandemic last year: 511,000. “

Anthony Fauci has lots to answer for.


31 posted on 04/22/2021 7:08:08 AM PDT by Captain7seas (Don't resist, after all you will get a free shower.)
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The known cases have 1% fatality now (it was higher last spring). The unknown cases might be as much as ive times the number of known cases. That makes it 0.2%. We know about the unknown cases through random antibody testing. Those are people chosen as randomly as possible, like a friend of mine who happened to have a Dr appointment last spring. He had the antibodies and had no idea he ever had anything. (he is 70).

Take scientific data like the random antibody testing, compare it to the numbers of known cases in that population, and that's how you find out how many cases are missing from the known case numbers. Again, that's a max of about 5 times as many as the known cases.

32 posted on 04/22/2021 7:25:16 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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Your conclusions, while sincere and well meant nonetheless use figures I simply do not believe any longer. The test mainly used to detect the virus is not even meant to be used in this way and the sample rate is ridiculously high at 40x and so vastly overstates the number of positives.

It’s all just so much bs and has at this time become 100% political.


33 posted on 04/22/2021 7:33:14 AM PDT by billyboy15 (')
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Right now the CFR is 1% minimum. However, there are lots of COVID plus something or something else being called COVID. Also the 511,000 extra deaths last year with the caveats I mentioned (increase in population, lots of those were not COVID but stress, deferred medical care, etc) works out to well over 1 death in 100 cases (1%)

To get to the IFR from the CFR you have to multiply by the number of hidden cases. That multiple is 5 max from scientific studies. If there are more false positive cases then that mutiple will be less than 5. IFR from the worst flu is 0.1% IFR from COVID is at least 0.2% and will be more if many cases are false positives.

34 posted on 04/22/2021 7:42:26 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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The very basis for everything you have said rests on the premis that the number of people testing positive is accurate. Read the following and you will see that as that phrase we have all heard says, “garbage in garbage out”

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/04/jon-rappoport/fauci-smoking-gun-evidence-pandemic-fraud-memo-to-ohio-congressman-jim-jordan/


35 posted on 04/22/2021 7:50:36 AM PDT by billyboy15 (')
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