Posted on 04/17/2021 12:56:39 AM PDT by blueplum
UKRAINE has warned that it could build nuclear weapons to combat Russia if the West does not allow it to join NATO.
This comes as Vladimir Putin has deployed tens of thousands of troops and tanks to the Ukrainian border in a worrying escalation of tensions.
Ukraine was formerly a nuclear state with 176 ballistic missiles and 44 strategic bombers following the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991.
However, the country agreed to eliminate its nukes in return for legally-binding security guarantees from Britain, the US and Russia.
But with Putin threatening to invade, seven years after he annexed Crimea using armed militias, Ukraine’s ambassador to Germany Andriy Melnik said the country is considering all its options....
(Excerpt) Read more at thesun.co.uk ...
Trump would tell them in no uncertain terms that start nuke production and all treaties are gone
As Joseph Stolen negotiates his personal kickbacks...
Now that there is funny!
Some nations perceive Russian control as an existential threat, and some Brit media folks like to stir the pot.
There was never a “legally binding” security guarantee from the US. Only a promise from Bill Clinton. We all know what that is worth....
Ukraine currently doesn’t have a factory capable to produce a rifle cartridge, and still dismantling its manufacturing base.
Its nuclear fuel, natural gas, gas, diesel and most of the food is still coming from Russia.
The people better rise against the unpopular regime before someone else did it for them.
Ukraine was stupid for giving up their nukes and even stupider for not developing an new nuclear deterrent already.
If you do not have a nuclear deferent, please pre-lube you anus and use a magic marker to draw a smile on you sad face.
They will strike while the iron is hot.
Everything will happen before Nov 2022.
Good luck with that.
I hope they kept a few nukes, just in case, you know. Maybe Hunter Biden knows where they are. They didn’t pay him because he was a pretty face.
Yeah, betting Ukraine wished they had kept those Soviet era nukes instead of giving them back........
maybe they kept a few - a momento?
Maybe. I had long asserted that Ukraine had nukes till I discovered otherwise. But yeah, one could always say they gave them back and kept a few. Dunno. Time will tell but I did find some irony within this article’s mention given Ukraine once had a crap load of Soviet era nukes, at one time.
Why shouldn’t Ukraine nuclearize for their defense?
So, what’s gonna happen in 2022? Are you implying that the feckless, gutless, spineless quisling traitors in the GOPee are gonna be voted in and then they’ll fix this steaming pile of schitt that the now-defunct former USA has become? Words fail me to describe such utter idiocy! GOPee Delenda Est!
If a broken down basket-case country llke Ukraine can issue a credible threat to develop nuclear weapons, like Iran does, then what about developed countries like Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Poland, and so on? I expect these countries, too, will develop a nuclear deterrent to defend themselves, if they don’t already have nuclear weapons, which they probably already may. Think about what this portends for the future. GOPee Delenda Est!
[Everything will happen before Nov 2022.]
My guess is by September, 2022.
Now that’s just a guess.
After Biden fell down on the steps, I was wondering if he’d be healthy enough to continue after May, 2021 or whether Pelosi and co. would push him out by then.
So that’s a guess, too.
We’ll see how his ongoing gaffes continue.
Perhaps Iran can send some back?
(There’s a reason for those direct flights between Ukraine and Iran ...)
Sometimes I wonder whether the explanation that some trigger-happy Iranian conscript shot down their own airliner, wasn’t what really happened ...
[There was never a “legally binding” security guarantee from the US. Only a promise from Bill Clinton. We all know what that is worth....]
We sure do live in interesting times.
“Ukraine was stupid for giving up their nukes and even stupider for not developing an new nuclear deterrent already.”
Well, yes and no. After the Soviet Union fell a UN inspection team was going around verifying Soviet weapons and their condition. A mobile launcher with one missile and three nuclear warheads was supposed to be in a remote section of woods. The team found the missile which was abandoned but there was an encampment and signs of recent use. The team waited and at dark the missile crew returned. They had been out hunting. They hadn’t been fed or paid in months. This is the situation much of the former soviet states found themselves in.
Fighter planes were being stolen from airbases. Weapons were being sold directly from military stores. The former soviet states had no money and the weapons were a danger to the entire world. The one thing Clinton did that I respect is have the CIA start buying anything that appeared on the market. While that may have increased the market, it at least kept the weapons from falling into the hands of organizations like Hezbollah.
A real concern was that ethnic tensions (ain’t diversity wonderful?) would flare up, but with nuclear weapons. The situation Ukraine was faced with was a complete collapse of society. That’s anarchy, but with nuclear weapons. Given what they faced at the time, getting rid of the weapons was the best thing they could do.
South Afrika did the same thing, but for slightly different reasons. They knew that once the white run government fell that a spectacularly corrupt kleptocracy would take over and that is what happened. It was the most responsible thing they could do.
Imagine how bad things are when you realize the safest thing for yourself and your loved ones is to downsize your weapons load. To us it’s unimaginable. But, we haven’t ever faced a total collapse. (We might not be too far away, though.)
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