UK scientists find higher risk of brain clots from COVID-19 compared with vaccines

Reuters ^ | 15 Apr 2021 | Alistair Smout

[blueplum]

Oxford study. Pre=print wasn't linked.

[blueplum]

found it:
https://osf.io/a9jdq/

[CondoleezzaProtege]

Oxford collaborated with AstraZeneca for vax development.

The question is. Is it worth *adding* the risk of the vaccine-related clots to the risk of getting Covid.

[Slyfox]

Wouldn’t that mean that people who have blood clotting issues to begin with should not take the jab?

[LukeL]

Many people are unaware they have clotting problems until a triggering event like an illness, new medicaiton, or an extended perior of immobility.

[ransomnote]

The 'vaccine' manufactuerers are circling the wagons. This 'study' is biased and relies on limited data and was funded by Oxford health. 

Data used for analysis obtained from TriNetX, whose head of the  board of directors was former CEO of Pfizer.

Ian Read

Chairman
Ian Read began his career at Pfizer in 1978 and was named CEO in 2010 and Chairman of the Pfizer Board of Directors in 2011. During Read’s tenure as CEO, Pfizer generated a total shareholder return of 250%, achieved 32 FDA approvals for new medicines, invested significantly in R&D, and completed several transformational transactions to help strengthen Pfizer’s pipeline. Previously, Read served as Senior Vice President and Group President of Pfizer’s Worldwide Biopharmaceutical Businesses, overseeing five global business units: Primary Care, Specialty Care, Oncology, Established Products and Emerging Markets. Prior to which, Read held positions in several of the company’s largest, fastest-growing operations, including Chief Financial Officer, Pfizer Mexico, and Country Manager, Pfizer Brazil. Read continues to serve on the board of directors of Kimberly-Clark. He will join the board of directors of Viatris upon the completion of the planned combination of Mylan N.V. and Upjohn Inc., which is expected to occur in mid-2020.

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In the last year, we witnessed a 99.5% or better (because millions of cases of Covid-19 not counted) survival rate and very limited mention of blood clotting, treatable with decoagulants.

These 'vaccines' make changes to the body which last for an unknown length of time. If you are allergic to the spike protein they trigger, your body will continue to make it anyway, exposing you to long term struggles with anaphylaxis and blood clots.

VAERS has so many cases of peculiar blood clotting not mentioned elsewhere (Covid-19 only) that I don't believe there's any benefit in the vaccination, only increased risk.

[reasonisfaith]

Maybe “covid” is more political than biological.

[grey_whiskers]

Many people are unaware they have clotting problems until a triggering event like an illness, new medicaiton, or an extended perior of immobility.

COVID itself being among those illnesses, btw.

[grey_whiskers]

Might have to do with the effective titer of the spike protein (e.g. natural exposure to the coof, you get a mild case, you have a bunch of spike protein, your body fights the virus down, you have hidden symptoms. You get the mRNA jab or an adenovirus vector jab, your body pumps out massive numbers of spikes, but your making antibodies doesn’t catch all the spikes made before they bump into things and cause problems.)

[Slyfox]

Yes, and why didn't my mother's doctor warn her that her 40-year blood-clotting issues may not mingle well with the two J&J shots she got?

And then Fauci announces that if you get a blood-clotting problem from the vaccine you must not take heparin. Just unbelievable that he is mass diagnosing everyone at the very same time with a bandaid medicine approach.

[Honest Nigerian]

The media has lectured us about how those racists (not me, or you... the real racists) all have an unconscious bias. While that could be argued let’s say for the thought experiment that it is true.
Wouldn’t that then be true of anyone with a vested interest in something.
My point is that a lot of people do what they think is the right thing. But then we get into these name calling things.
On the other hand Fauci lacks intellectual honesty and ethics IMO.
So that is my $.02 worth.

[blueplum]

The chances of getting brain clots, from, covid is 39 in a million
the chances of getting brain clots, from possibly, vaccines, is 5 in a million

the chances of getting struck by lightening in any one year is 2 in one million, and 1 in 15,000 over my lifetime.

the chances of getting killed in a fatal car accident are about 1 in 10-20,000 .

Life is relative.

I’ll take the J&Jvaccine, if they ever get enough, but as I’ve said from the beginning, I’ll neither encourage or discourage.

Each person has to ferret the info they can, weigh the pros and cons and make their own personal decision.

[blueplum]

99.5% only applies if you are 4-17
0=3 are 2x at risk as 4-17yo’s and the risk goes up from there, with mortality bracket lowered from ‘mostly over 80’s’ (based on earliest infections) to mostly over 50s (based on current rates of infection)

[LukeL]

Amazing how he can come to such a conclusion with only days of research when it can often take a decade or more to come up with contraindications for many medications.

[Reeses]

we estimated

In other words: we guesstimated. Patients diagnosed with Wuhan are given unusual medicines. It could very well be the shocks to their blood chemistry rather than the virus causing the clots.

[hotdogjones]

Funny how they are trying to change the narrative only after information came out that all the covid-19 vaccines can cause serious blood clot issues.

[House Atreides]

“Oxford collaborated with AstraZeneca for vax development.

The question is. Is it worth *adding* the risk of the vaccine-related clots to the risk of getting Covid.”
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I’m certainly not defending the AstraZeneca vaccine which is not authorized in the US. But, for accuracy, isn’t the question actually: Is it worth ADDING the risk of vaccine-related clots in order to SUBTRACT the potential risks of contracting COVID-19 with its attendant risks (including COVID-19 related clots). I have no answer to that question but that would be the calculus.

[CondoleezzaProtege]

Seeing as how a lot of otherwise young and healthy people (mostly women) have tragically fallen victim to the vax (well the viral vector format in particular) within a span of a few weeks. No. :(

[House Atreides]

“...as I’ve said from the beginning, I’ll neither encourage or discourage.

Each person has to ferret the info they can, weigh the pros and cons and make their own personal decision.”
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A wise position to take, IMHO. We’re all free men and women and we should insist we stay that way.

[ransomnote]

That ‘study’ was produced by the manufactuerers of the vaccine. I’m not taking their word for anything.

The young become ill with covid quite rarely so saying it’s 2x risk compared with 4-17 yr olds, and would likely have vulnerabilities. They used a biased data sample - you can make that data say anything you want if you control what goes in it.