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To: Little Ray

“Standard method of restraining.” ...until you get the cuffs on.

You can’t justify the knee on neck after that.

You can’t.

My porch light is LED Blue.

Love our local cops, but can’t justify this in my mind.

Cops don’t have indiscriminate lethal authority.

...and that’s a good thing.


33 posted on 04/08/2021 7:31:22 AM PDT by Eddie01
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To: Eddie01

First, the defense has already capably demonstrated that Chauvin’s knee wasn’t on Floyd’s neck. That’s fake news.

The state’s own witness disagreed. He said that he has had arrests where he kept the suspect ON THE GROUND by force as they waited for EMS to arrive. He also said that people who OD, pass out and then come to again, can be dangerously violent.

Not only did the state’s own witness offer that testimony, but he was forced to admit - under oath - that Chauvin actually DEESCALATED the use of force when he elected to NOT tase the suspect, something that would have been authorized considering Floyd’s non-compliance.


38 posted on 04/08/2021 7:36:03 AM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: Eddie01

“You can’t justify the knee on neck after that.

You can’t.”

Read the article. The prosecution witness makes the DEFENSE’s case that what you wrote is not true!


44 posted on 04/08/2021 7:49:03 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Eddie01

“To counter the prosecution’s suggestions to the jury that Chauvin’s use-of-force could no longer be justified once Floyd was handcuffed and prone, Nelson asked Stiger if a suspect in handcuffs can still be a threat? Yes, answered Stiger. They can bite, kick, run. Yes.

They can get the officer’s weapon? Yes. Even if handcuffed. Yes.

The notion that a handcuffed suspect is no longer a threat is not correct, a handcuffed suspect can continue to present a risk? Yes, answered Stiger.”


48 posted on 04/08/2021 7:51:12 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Eddie01

I don’t like the amount of power cops have. I have issues with ‘qualified immunity.’
But Chauvin didn’t cause Floyd’s death; Floyd was having problems breathing BEFORE he was restrained.
As for the restraint, video shows Chauvin’s knee was on his back and shoulders, not his neck. Chauvin and his fellow cops were dealing with a potentially hostile crowd and Floyd wasn’t cooperating. They needed Floyd restrained while they kept an eye on the local wildlife and waited for the paramedics that they called in response to Floyd’s distress that was happening BEFORE he was restrained under Chauvin’s knee. Oh, and the prosecution’s Expert Witness? He was forced to admit that he did that way, too.
Floyd was dead no matter what. If he had sat quietly in the back of the cop car he would died. If the cops let him wander away, he would have died. If the ambulance had gotten their earlier, Chauvin would have still been DOA.
No matter how bad it looks, Chauvin and his comrades did their best in a crappy situation. Floyd died because he swallowed his inventory of the drugs he dealt. Chauvin doesn’t deserve prison and the world is better place for being rid of Floyd.


55 posted on 04/08/2021 7:55:50 AM PDT by Little Ray (Corporations don't pay taxes. They collect them.)
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To: Eddie01

“You can’t justify the knee on neck after that.”

When someone is OD’d on fentanyl I think you are supposed to keep them as still as possible. Regular opiates will render you unconscious before you stop breathing. With fentanyl *especially with speed” you could be fully awake when you “can’t breath”.

This trial is not about what you think is justifiable. It is about determining what caused the death.


106 posted on 04/08/2021 10:33:53 AM PDT by Neverlift (When someone says "you just can't make this stuff up" odds are good, somebody did.)
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