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Joe Biden’s Ukraine Policy: A Repeat of George W. Bush in Georgia?
The National Interest ^ | April 5th, 2021 | by Ted Galen Carpenter

Posted on 04/05/2021 8:26:45 PM PDT by Mariner

Biden’s administration is going out of its way to assure Ukraine’s government that the United States and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) have Kiev’s back in its growing confrontation with Russian-supported separatists and Russia itself. An April 2 White House press release confirmed that in his telephone call to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, Joe Biden “affirmed the United States’ unwavering support for Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity in the face of Russia’s ongoing aggression in the Donbas and Crimea.” Other high-level administration officials, including Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin and Secretary of State Antony Blinken have done the same.

Such confrontational verbal posturing would be troubling enough by itself. However, it’s taking place in the aftermath of new armed clashes between Ukrainian government and separatist forces. Until recently, a cease fire agreement negotiated in 2020 has held reasonably well, but tensions are now rising sharply. In response to the renewed fighting, Russia has moved additional forces to its border with Ukraine. Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov also issued a warning that if Kiev restarted the war in the Donbas region, that move would lead to Ukraine’s destruction.

Positions are hardening in other respects. Ukraine’s government announced that joint military exercises with Ukrainian and NATO troops likely would take place sometime this summer. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov warned that any deployment of NATO troops to Ukraine would force Russia to take “additional measures to ensure its own security.”

The Biden administration is in grave danger of replicating George W. Bush’s disastrous policy of encouraging Georgia’s president, Mikheil Saakashvili, to believe that his country was a valued U.S. ally and that the United States and NATO would come to Georgia’s rescue if it became embroiled in an armed conflict with Russia.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biden; crimea; joebiden; nato; putin; russia; ukraine; vladimirputin
As DFWGator says, not our circus, not out monkeys.
1 posted on 04/05/2021 8:26:45 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: dfwgator

Whose circus? ping


2 posted on 04/05/2021 8:27:42 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Why should NATO have any interest in helping the Kiev government installed by a coup expand the geographical territory it wants.

The people in Eastern Ukraine and Crimea have the same right to seize their areas and get assistance that the people who grabbed Kiev did.

No national interest for NATO and the USA necessitating an alliance that includes Germany to re-fight battles on WWII eastern front battlefields.


3 posted on 04/05/2021 8:32:53 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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To: Mariner

Great. Just. Great.

“Team America, World Police!”


4 posted on 04/05/2021 8:39:35 PM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Convention Of States is our only hope now!)
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To: DesertRhino

I don’t give two spits what happens in Ukraine. None of our business, period.


5 posted on 04/05/2021 8:40:37 PM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Convention Of States is our only hope now!)
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To: DesertRhino

There is no legitimate government for all of “Ukraine”, because Ukraine has not been a real country since the Kievian Rus 1,000 years ago.

And it’s consensual government was deposed in a Coup in 2014.

Russia had possession of Eastern Ukraine and Crimea for at least 350 years.

The Poles and Lithuanians had the west for as long.

Split it at the Dnipier.


6 posted on 04/05/2021 8:45:58 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: DesertRhino

In this case, if you deployed in 50k NATO troops...within a week, 10-percent of the folks would be Covid-positive. This whole ‘dog and pony’ show would falter by the third week.


7 posted on 04/05/2021 8:55:47 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Mariner

Kinda sad for some, but there’s a lot of truth in the fact that eastern and western Ukraine are very different. It’s hard to imagine how either side would ever be happy with the other in charge. It’s just not in the cards.

I feel the same way about Portland and the east coast.


8 posted on 04/05/2021 9:03:54 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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To: Mariner

Whose monkey is Joe?


9 posted on 04/05/2021 9:08:17 PM PDT by TigersEye (Will the Younger Dryas Impact you? )
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To: TigersEye

Dementia Joe is not intelligent enough to be a monkey.


10 posted on 04/05/2021 9:26:15 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: reg45

How ‘bout a wooden puppet monkey?


11 posted on 04/05/2021 9:37:43 PM PDT by TigersEye (Will the Younger Dryas Impact you? )
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To: TigersEye

Oooh, war with Russia.

The dream of the Democrats ever since Hillary lost.

When Hillary went on her “I-lost-because-of-Russia” tour, I said back then they wanted war with Russia. /shiny side out


12 posted on 04/06/2021 3:04:45 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: TigersEye

“Whose monkey is Joe?”

Joe is a hand-maiden for the neo-cons.

The neo-cons’ dream(or religion):

Incorporate Ukraine and Georgia (the Georgia on the Black Sea) into NATO and wrest Crimea back from Russia. Kick Russia out of its leased port in Crimea (Sevastopol) and install a NATO fleet there instead, making the Black Sea a Nato-dominated lake. Prevent Russia from having any water-based access to the Mediterranean or to send stuff by sea to the Middle East.


13 posted on 04/06/2021 5:47:03 AM PDT by RAldrich
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To: DesertRhino
You are absolutely right. US and NATO are pretending that the "government" in Kiev is somehow legitimate, when they extra-constitutionally ejected their former president and installed a new government with hand-waving.

Kiev needs to shut the hell up and realize that it has no legitimate claim to either Crimea or the Donbass. Indeed it seems to be all on principle, as Kiev certainly doesn't mind bombing the civilians that live there.

Russia will certainly not get involved as long as Kiev stops their juvenile saber-rattling.

14 posted on 04/06/2021 9:20:22 AM PDT by billakay
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