Posted on 04/05/2021 10:16:27 AM PDT by Navy Patriot
You had better hope not because that was the point of reviewing the negative side of Greek and Polish history.
Both were divided, punished by the Powerful reducing them to in-consequence, and the Powerful Actors on both sides went on to dismount the "Crocodile" without consequence.
Enough Power, applied effectively, eliminates negative consequences no matter which side you are on.
Stick around, we need some honest input on Russian and Slavic issues, opinions and activities.
As a personal point, I had a great uncle in Poland who, as a retired farmer, became a courier for Rural Solidarity and was murdered by the communist secret police. Such a murder indicated that he refused to betray his loyalty to Solidarity. How many Americans in their 80s would take such risks and embrace death to help free their country? And can one properly disparage such courage and sacrifice while also professing one's own patriotism? I think not.
It was simply an assertion that any group has negative as well as positive traits coupled with the historic fact that fallen Empires have not been rebuilt by those that built them or anyone else.
Nor were your comments taken out of context as Power, Effectively Used, always makes the user a Saint, regardless of whom that person is.
Additionally there was no discussion of ordinary INDIVIDUALS, only particularly powerful ones such as Putin, Clinton, Obama, Brown, et all in my comments about character.
Finally I never attacked or disparaged you personally, or any particular Greek or Polish person or Hero as you have me.
Both claims are false and disparaging. Your claim that I attacked or disparaged you is also false.
The genuine bravery and accomplishments of Greeks and Poles deserve credit. And we seem to agree that Marxism is the bane of both.
See, there ya go, both are true and historically accurate, but they don't fit the narrative of your feelings so you refuse to see them.
Turkey holds historically Greek territory, and Ukraine holds historically Polish territory because neither can take it back.
Get back to me when they do.
You seem to advocate a strict blood and soil understanding of what constitutes a valid nation. Yet no country in Europe can now pass your test, not even today’s slimmed down Germany, nor Britain minus the Irish Republic. Yet Poland, Greece, and Ireland are all nevertheless now enjoying a secure sense of nationhood, with all three prosperous and independent. For small nations in blood soaked Europe, it doesn’t get much better — even if they have put aside revanchism.
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