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China, Russia, or America? Which Great Power Fields the Best Tank?
https://nationalinterest.org ^ | by Sebastien Roblin

Posted on 04/01/2021 12:50:53 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19

All three nations have invested heavily into having large and proficient tank forces.

ere's What You Need to Remember: However, one should keep in mind the actual performance of the Type 99’s armor, gun and electronic systems is not certain, particularly as the vehicle has not been exported, whereas both the M1 and T-90 have been used in action by multiple operators. Beijing likes to keep the details of its technology close, and also has an incentive to talk up the capabilities of its hardware.

China has a lot of tanks. Like, eight to nine thousand of them.

Who else would bother to maintain such a ridiculous number?

The United States. And Russia. (Note that such counts include vehicles in storage and reserve. The numbers for tanks in operational units are lower in every case).

However, the majority of Beijing’s tanks are old designs, particularly Type 59 and 69 tanks more or less directly copied from the 50s-era Soviet T-54 tank. Such is their profligacy that I once had the pleasure of bumping into one in a children’s playground in Tianjin serving the needs of the (young) people.

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Burlak tank
1 posted on 04/01/2021 12:50:53 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19
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To: RomanSoldier19

Perhaps the better question is, who can get their tanks where they intend to be used?


2 posted on 04/01/2021 12:56:08 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: RomanSoldier19

Everyone talks them down, but tanks are spooky to any sane person. Yeah missiles, etc. But a tank will kill you if you make the slightest mistake or you don’t happen to have a missile that day.

And tankers are the missing link. Don’t kid yourself. Not quite grunt, not quite technician. All the worst attributes of both. The comedic uncaring cruelty of a grunt, and the very deadly tech of a tank at their fingertips.

This is just from my watching tanks and tankers. Even friendly tanks should worry a sane person. No tank is ever really 100% your friend... and that’s no joke.


3 posted on 04/01/2021 12:57:55 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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Are tanks now an outdated weapons platform? During the brief Armenian- Azerbagani war in 2020, Armenian armor was numerous and literally decimated with high causalities by an advanced battlefield drone system supplied by Israel to the Azerbaganis. Military observers took notice and as disconcerting as it was to armor advocates, the new technology is a profound game changer.


4 posted on 04/01/2021 1:00:30 PM PDT by allendale
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To: RomanSoldier19

Are tanks now an outdated weapons platform? During the brief Armenian- Azerbagani war in 2020, Armenian armor was numerous and literally decimated with high causalities by an advanced battlefield drone system supplied by Israel to the Azerbaganis. Military observers took notice and as disconcerting as it was to armor advocates, the new technology is a profound game changer.


5 posted on 04/01/2021 1:00:30 PM PDT by allendale
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To: Mr. Blond
"Perhaps the better question is, who can get their tanks where they intend to be used?"

And of course, just as important as logistics, is support as well as the training/experience of the tankers themselves.

6 posted on 04/01/2021 1:03:03 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Mr. Blond

Well it would seem Russia and China have a far easier time playing with their tanks together than either of them with the usa.


7 posted on 04/01/2021 1:03:12 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: DesertRhino

Suicide Drones

Link

8 posted on 04/01/2021 1:04:22 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19 (Game over, man! Game over! ; : rem ad triarios redisse is)
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To: DesertRhino

Tanks could bring a whole new level of meaning to drive by shootings.

Also, not too long ago the Babylon Bee ran a piece about women trying to parallel park tanks on an army base.


9 posted on 04/01/2021 1:04:40 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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Looks like China

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10 posted on 04/01/2021 1:04:59 PM PDT by yuleeyahoo (The nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master and deserves one. Hamilton)
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To: allendale

You are probably right. There are some smaller Russian and NATO unmanned tanks which may replace the ones we have now. Beside the point, why did the author not include Germany’s tank?


11 posted on 04/01/2021 1:05:01 PM PDT by packagingguy
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To: allendale

Troops To Test AFRL’s THOR Drone Killer This Fall ...


12 posted on 04/01/2021 1:05:06 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19 (Game over, man! Game over! ; : rem ad triarios redisse is)
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To: allendale

You don’t deploy tanks without backup. Sounds like someone didn’t know what sort of new backup was needed.

The presence of effective drones just means someone will now sell the army counter-drone-warfare drones.

That said, the availability of drones could be a boon to mobile artillery for forward fire control and I would look for future generations of tanks to give up a little of their low profiles to allow for higher gun elevation just so they can get in on the game on an as need basis.


13 posted on 04/01/2021 1:12:16 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Rocky the Flying Squirrel:

Tanks, Bullwinkle!

Bullwinkle Moose: You’re welcome.


14 posted on 04/01/2021 1:12:52 PM PDT by frank ballenger (End vote fraud, harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

China or Russia could have the best tanks in the world, but I have no fear of ever facing one.


15 posted on 04/01/2021 1:13:41 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: DesertRhino
My brother was an M1 tanker for 20 years.

Every year in his unit or another they pulled mangled corpses or body parts out of the turrets or out from under them.

A tank will kill its own crew or friendly forces almost as easily as it kills the enemy, which is why training is absolutely critical.

16 posted on 04/01/2021 1:14:22 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: RomanSoldier19

17 posted on 04/01/2021 1:14:59 PM PDT by DFG
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To: archy

Ping.


18 posted on 04/01/2021 1:17:03 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: packagingguy

It’s not clear the Germans will actually build their new models. BTW, Rheinmetall has moved a lot of its R&D and production to the US or Britain because they don’t expect a lot of purchases from Europe.


19 posted on 04/01/2021 1:18:59 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: RomanSoldier19

Perhaps more to the point (as with any weapon system), who fields the best tank crewmen?

My bet would be on the US, but then for how long as the SJWs have their way with our military...


20 posted on 04/01/2021 1:20:53 PM PDT by elteemike (Light is faster than sound; that's why so many people appear bright until you hear them speak.)
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