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Australian police suggests app to record consent to sexual activity
The Register ^ | Thu 18 Mar 2021

Posted on 03/17/2021 10:50:40 PM PDT by nickcarraway

‘You swipe left and right and there’s another option if you want to have intimacy’ says commissioner

The police commissioner of New South Wales in Australia has floated the idea of a smartphone app to record consent to sexual activity.

In a paywalled story published by News Corporation and broadcast on local radio, Michael Fuller suggested such an application would not be run by the cops nor the government, and could be either a standalone app or added as a feature in dating apps.

“You swipe left and right and there’s another option if you want to have intimacy,” he said.

The idea comes against a background of recent heightened debate about sexual assault in Australia.

A month ago, a woman who worked in Parliament alleged she was raped in 2019 by a colleague in a minister's office though did not pursue legal action as she felt pressured not to create a political problem for the government.

Separately, an account of a rape allegedly perpetrated by Australia's Attorney-General Christian Porter more than 30 years ago then emerged, leading to strong denials by the senior minister, who has launched a defamation lawsuit against the journalist and title that ran the story. It also emerged police in New South Wales did not pass on documents detailing the allegation to the nation's federal police.

Those events, plus the kidnap and killing of Sarah Everard in the UK, led to marches in Australia with the theme 'enough is enough.' Australia’s prime minister and minister for women declined to attend the march outside Parliament House though did offer organizers face-to-face meetings.

Three days after those marches, Fuller made his suggestion about an app.

It was quickly pointed out that New South Wales Police may not be the best organization to discuss consent, after recent findings that officers inappropriately strip-searched more than 100 minors and disproportionately targeted indigenous people.

The phone app idea was also roundly criticized on the grounds that it is entirely possible to compel the use of the app, use the app on behalf of someone without that person’s consent or knowledge, and that it’s unclear how use of an app would work as evidence or some kind of contract.

Other criticism focused on consent in an app potentially being seen as overriding withdrawal of consent in real life.

Denmark’s creation of a consent-recording app, called iConsent, has also been noted.

But many have pointed out that an app just doesn’t address the key problem of why men, predominately, don’t take no for an answer in these attacks, and is unlikely to change their behavior.

At a subsequent press conference watched by The Register, Fuller said the idea of an app was not an end, but a means to start a wider conversation about consent.

“There are plenty of people criticising the app,” he said. “I am OK with that."

“The app may never see the light of day, but I hope we do talk about consent again,” he added, going on to say that if such conversations led to even small behavior change that represents a degree of success because it means fewer incidents that end up in the justice system.

“It is not about helping us [NSW Police], it is about protecting victims,” he said. “Once you are in the justice system you are a victim.”

The commissioner added that cyber-crime is the only category of offence that NSW Police finds more challenging to resolve than sexual crimes. ®


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: australia; michaelfuller

1 posted on 03/17/2021 10:50:40 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

“OK Susy, before we have sex, admit you are a bit slutty.”


2 posted on 03/17/2021 10:58:19 PM PDT by Lockbar (Vlad the Impailer had all the answers.)
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To: nickcarraway

We can’t be too far away from developing the Orgasmatron.


3 posted on 03/17/2021 11:10:30 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Caveat Emperor: Comitii asinorum atque rhinocerorum delendi sunt.)
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To: nickcarraway

It won’t matter. A girl who suffers ‘regret sex’ will always get around consent because she changed her mind after a week of kvetching with her girlfriends.


4 posted on 03/17/2021 11:21:18 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: nickcarraway

Rapists will use a deepfakr app on their phones....


5 posted on 03/17/2021 11:31:31 PM PDT by GraceG ("If I post an AWESOME MEME, STEAL IT! JUST RE-POST IT IN TWO PLACES PLEASE")
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To: nickcarraway

“You swipe left and right and there’s another option if you want to have intimacy,”

1) Form a circle with the thumb and forefinger of one hand.

2) Move the forefinger of the other hand in and out of the circle, to signify your intent.

Sorry, I’m dying here. :)


6 posted on 03/17/2021 11:35:13 PM PDT by JohnnyP (Thinking is hard work (I stole that from Rush).)
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To: nickcarraway

Soon to be called the “The Boy’s Notch Record” for sharing and proving their conquests.

“Hey Susie! I saw your profile on Danny’s app . . . hows ‘bout we have a go?”


7 posted on 03/17/2021 11:44:56 PM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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With options for the orifice of preference?

God, I miss the yesterdays.


8 posted on 03/18/2021 12:08:25 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: nickcarraway

Good thing these folks aren’t nosy or anything. Regardless of their intentions, what damn business of theirs is it anyway? Someday, you will have to file a petition to blow your nose. They will be nosy about that also.


9 posted on 03/18/2021 12:10:50 AM PDT by Richard Axtell (President Asterisk is an ass to risk the economy and rights of all Americans.)
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To: nickcarraway

Hmmm.... think of the possibilities to combine this app with the vaccine passport.

The participants would enter the consent for the sex app. But, the combined app?


10 posted on 03/18/2021 12:12:59 AM PDT by C210N (You can trust government or you can understand history. But you CANNOT do both.)
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I make a video recording, and have a whole card for them to read about their level of intoxication, what if any drugs they’ve done, how many drinks, etc. It’s not the most romantic way to proceed, but almost every woman I’ve asked to do this, indicate that they clearly understand the need to do it. Strange times, and lawyers, even if you’re innocent, can bankrupt you.


11 posted on 03/18/2021 12:21:28 AM PDT by krogers58
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Train and arm your females. Less ambiguity.


12 posted on 03/18/2021 12:25:37 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights .........It is the LAW. )
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To: nickcarraway

What the hell is going on in New South Wales, Australia? Is it the San Francisco of Australia?

Do they put “Stupid pills” in their water? Sounds like it.


13 posted on 03/18/2021 12:56:24 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: nickcarraway
Michael Fuller suggested such an application would not be run by the cops nor the government, and could be either a standalone app or added as a feature in dating apps.

It'll probably be run by Google and/or Facebook - with the server located in Red China.

So, I guess that means that we can all relax now, right?

But imagine if you encounter problems and have to talk with the Help Desk (which will be in Bangalore).

Regards,

14 posted on 03/18/2021 1:10:14 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: nickcarraway

I suggested this to the wife. She still said “no”. Boom boom tish


15 posted on 03/18/2021 1:44:22 AM PDT by melsec (There's a track, winding back, to an old forgotten shack along the road to Gundagai..)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

I must stand up for NSW. This is Sydney and much of the East Coast. Rural NSW is full of great, sensible, Christian folk. At times it feels like going back to the early 60s there. I am going back for a 3 month holiday soon and would seriously consider moving there


16 posted on 03/18/2021 1:48:20 AM PDT by melsec (There's a track, winding back, to an old forgotten shack along the road to Gundagai..)
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To: melsec
I suggested this to the wife. She still said “no”. Boom boom tish.

It has been so long since I had sex I can't remember who gets tied up first.

17 posted on 03/18/2021 2:46:27 AM PDT by dearolddad
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To: nickcarraway

Sounds romantic. How could we more clearly prove we don’t trust each other. From prenup to pretouch.


18 posted on 03/18/2021 3:39:13 AM PDT by conejo99
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To: nickcarraway

Should there be a check list to detail exactly what positions and sexual acts both parties will perform?

Can one sex partner sue if the other sexual partner fails to perform all of the agreed upon acts?

Is there a special form for orgies?

Should there be a referee?


19 posted on 03/18/2021 6:24:52 AM PDT by moovova (Yo GOP....we won't forget.)
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To: dearolddad

Hey brother nice to see your name pop up again.

It depends on who is unwilling as to who gets tied up first LOL - that will get me in trouble haha


20 posted on 03/19/2021 6:51:44 AM PDT by melsec (There's a track, winding back, to an old forgotten shack along the road to Gundagai..)
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