Posted on 03/10/2021 6:31:53 AM PST by Heartlander
My wife and I have decided to send any current or future Relief Payments to the Trump PAC. Feels good.
The same deadbeats and layabouts that hit us up for money and other handouts today will be hitting us up for money and other handouts even if the minimum wage was tripled and then tripled again.
You can take that to the bank.
Arguments aside, a higher minimum wage will happen. It is better that a populist Republican party get behind or, better yet, in front of this. I say go with an immediate, by end of year $15 an hour minimum wage, with future rates tied to indexing to remove the political aspect of it, AND implement eVerify for existing and future workers to ensure that only US citizens and authorized immigrants are employed. Why not? It is going to happen with or without Republican support, might as well get something for it.
If I write a Check Today for the $41K, can I forgo ALL FEDERAL TAXES for the next 20 years??
Too much information on this issue and we’ve lost the argument. It’s like immigration in 2008-2010. Democrats owned the government and did squat. it’s the issue-continuous.
Bezos wants a higher minimum wage with which to put his competitors out of business.
Minimum wage is different, it is going to happen, it is happening. No amount of arguing against it is going to stop it. I personally agree with it and know many people that will benefit from it. That is why I've always been pragmatic about it and figure we might as well get something for it--eVerify, for example.
The root of the problem we face is NOT that facts are on our side in opposition to raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour...because they are.
The root of the problem is that we THINK facts matter and that facts are actually part of the process.
There are two key points related to this to keep in mind:
First, Facts simply don’t matter anymore as a part of the process, and second...there isn’t any process other than the Left proposes it and the Left carries it out now that they are in power..
I don’t know what the solution is, honestly. This isn’t surrender. But the fact is...the Left is pushing it on emotion and ideology. Every single available fact is against increasing the minimum wage, but when they are not even considered, we waste our breath.
Unfortunately, this is all an offshoot of the Leftist view that there is no objective truth.
To the Left, they believe (or at least, pretend to for the purposes of achieving political goals) that all truths are subjective.
That is, you have your truth, I have mine, and...therefore, they cancel out and we do what feels right emotionally.
They therefore expend all their energies not on evaluating the facts, but poisoning the “emotional” well of support so the people susceptible to that on both sides of an issue will become odd bedfellows and an ostensible base of support.
I support a minimum wage, I support a $15 an hour minimum wage, and I think that the people that benefit from it are worth helping. I also want eVerify to ensure that only Americans benefit from it. I have never paid anyone under $15 per hour and I seriously doubt, despite the griping otherwise, that any business will close because of a rise in the minimum wage. If there are any that do, they have a bad business model and someone will replace them with a better business model.
Give a man a fish, and he eats one meal. Give a man a fishing pole, and he eats daily. But giving him a few fishing poles makes no sense.
If you try to create and run a business based upon the demands of the employees and not the needs of the business, then it will fail. Employment is an opportunity, not the expected gift our kids have been programed by computer images. It’s a centuries old process of gambling that the employee will do their job to be paid their pittance. And in time, as they gain more responsibility through proven work, they get a bigger pittance. Time proven process. Worked for those centuries I mentioned. Been the way businesses were started and grew for all that time.
Thus it has nothing to do with business. And it can’t have anything else to do but with pandering votes. And the government keeps people from prosperity, not helps them by throwing a bone. So the only business that prospers is government because they take the money to pay their employees too much for too little from people that can’t pay any employees when their business fails. And they will be the only thing that will live through a recession as they will be the only business that has money. And if they don’t have enough, they’ll just print more whether there is worth to back it up or not. And then everyone will not be paid that $15 an hour...except them. And that will be a lot as they say it is as no one will have anything to spend it on.
It has been said that if you can’t raise the bridge. lower the river. So if you can’t get the people paid that amount because it won’t work financially, then you lock down the states and force businesses to close anyway. I believe it was he dancing fairy Raul Emanuel that said don’t let a good disaster go to waste. He’s liberal, too.
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I respect your opinion, and if it is right for your business model, I think that is great for you and those you hire, but I disagree with you on the overall point.
Minimum wage jobs are generally entry level jobs into the workforce and are not intended for people to live on and raise families under.
“Living wage” is a Leftist premise.
If you do it under your business model, I am all for it. I disagree every business should be forced into it.
Thomas Sowell has outlined at length in his works the various issues with raising the minimum wage to these levels, and I agree with his evaluation.
If a "minimum wage" hike (misnomer - the real minimum wage is always $0) was joined at the hip to meaningful Hire American provisions, it might actually be a net plus for every American. Absent such provisions, it pays certain poorer people by unemploying other people.
The min. wage should be raised the pegged to inflation. I am tired of Democrats trolling the GOP with this divisive high visibility issue.
I agree. I would start at $12 then $1 dollar increase a year for the next three years.
For decades, some people have alleged that newer minimum wage studies typically find no negative impacts on employment. This claim was debunked by a 2007 paper in the journal Foundations and Trends in Microeconomics. Per the paper, which was written by Ph.D. labor economists David Neumark and William Wascher:
A 2015 paper by the same scholars and Ph.D. labor economist Ian Salas goes into great detail about the flaws of studies that conclude the minimum wage does not destroy jobs.
That was just for covid pork. Unfunded liabilities is gonna cost you.
The real minimum wage is zero. A minimum wage hurts the people you think it is helping. I am not going to hire someone to sweep my shop floors for 15 an hour.
Give a man a fish he eats for a meal. Vote for a democrat to steal money from Peter to buy Paul’s fish and give it to another man and he eats all day every day in a life of leisure as Peter wonders where all his hard earned money went.
And by the way...I DO mean it when I think it is fine when you commit to paying $15 minimum wage in your business. There are a LOT of different factors (your business model might even fall into the referenced “monopsony power” category which I had to look up, but understood what it meant) that impact it.
If you can do this in your business model, I admire and appreciate it. I simply don’t think that overall it is something that should be forced on every business.
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