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Rescue Package Includes $86 Billion Bailout for Failing Pensions
New York Times ^ | 08 March 2021 | Mary Williams Walsh and Alan Rappeport

Posted on 03/08/2021 5:32:54 AM PST by zeestephen

Tucked inside the $1.9 trillion stimulus bill that cleared the Senate on Saturday is an $86 billion aid package that has nothing to do with the pandemic. Rather, the $86 billion is a taxpayer bailout for about 185 union pension plans that are so close to collapse that without the rescue, more than a million retired truck drivers, retail clerks, builders and others could be forced to forgo retirement income.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bailout; pension; unions
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1 posted on 03/08/2021 5:32:54 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

Not surprising. I’ll wager that there’s also at least $86 billion for The Kennedy Center and “gender research”


2 posted on 03/08/2021 5:34:54 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Trump: "They're After You. I'm Just In The Way")
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To: zeestephen

I assume a lot of these folks voted for President Trump. I’m okay with this.


3 posted on 03/08/2021 5:35:16 AM PST by No_Mas_Obama
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To: zeestephen

Should be unconstitutional.


4 posted on 03/08/2021 5:36:33 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: No_Mas_Obama

“ I assume a lot of these folks voted for President Trump. I’m okay with this.”

I’m not.

L


5 posted on 03/08/2021 5:37:19 AM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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To: Gay State Conservative

The only surprise is that it’s “only” $86 billion.


6 posted on 03/08/2021 5:37:43 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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7 posted on 03/08/2021 5:37:48 AM PST by rlmorel ("I’d rather enjoy a risky freedom than a safe servitude." Robby Dinero, USMC Veteran, Gym Owner)
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To: zeestephen

Perfect. Just in time for someone to go abuse and mismanage those pensions for another 10-15 years.


8 posted on 03/08/2021 5:39:09 AM PST by z3n
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To: rlmorel

I guess the host has finally shut down my image hosting.

I was trying to post my “This is my shocked face” graphic, but no.


9 posted on 03/08/2021 5:39:18 AM PST by rlmorel ("I’d rather enjoy a risky freedom than a safe servitude." Robby Dinero, USMC Veteran, Gym Owner)
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To: zeestephen

“”” Rather, the $86 billion is a taxpayer bailout for about 185 union pension plans that are so close to collapse that without the rescue, more than a million retired truck drivers, retail clerks, builders and others”””


I would like to know who the “OTHERS” are.

I suspect the vast majority of the pension bailouts are for the state and local government workers in the Democrat States who have implemented pension plans over the years that are severely underfunded.


10 posted on 03/08/2021 5:46:44 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: zeestephen

No wherein the article or links could I find the name of even one pension plan for a single or multiple company. Some one got big salary to publish bogus statistics.


11 posted on 03/08/2021 5:47:37 AM PST by larryjohnson (FReepersonaltrainer)
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To: zeestephen

The S&P 500 (SPY) increased 60% during the four years of the Trump administration.

How the heck do 185 union pension plans almost go bankrupt when the most basic stock portfolio possible goes up 60%!


12 posted on 03/08/2021 5:47:53 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

DEFUND socialist collectives, foreign and domestic.


13 posted on 03/08/2021 5:47:55 AM PST by PGalt (past peak civilization?)
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To: No_Mas_Obama

“””I assume a lot of these folks voted for President Trump. I’m okay with this.”””


I assume a lot of these “others” are government worker pukes who voted for Biden. I am not okay with that.


14 posted on 03/08/2021 5:48:37 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: zeestephen
How the heck do 185 union pension plans almost go bankrupt when the most basic stock portfolio possible goes up 60%!

Benefits going out don't equal funding coming in plus portfolio performance.

15 posted on 03/08/2021 5:49:04 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: rlmorel

Your “shocked face” image in Comment #7 came through fine on my computer.

Windows 10 - MSFT Edge Browser


16 posted on 03/08/2021 5:51:11 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen
without the rescue, more than a million retired truck drivers, retail clerks, builders and others could be forced to forgo retirement income.

Uh-huh. But not government employees, eh? Because their pension plans are so well-managed that there is no danger of their plans collapsing.

Sure is nice of Nanzi and Chuckles to care so much about truck drivers, retail clerks, builders and others while simultaneously destroying their livelihoods.

17 posted on 03/08/2021 5:52:42 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: zeestephen

Back when Obama passed the stimulus bill in 2009, I did some slicing and dicing after downloading spreadsheets supplied by a “transparency” website so “taxpayers could see where their money was going to improve infrastructure and ‘shovel-ready’ jobs...”

I will say, they abstracted the data so heavily that it was nearly impossible to figure out what money was going where, but in breaking down the distributions to one of the most wealthy towns in my state, there was something that stuck out, it kept coming up.

This was just two fiscal quarters in Massachusetts (yes, two quarters) of stimulus money going to pay for teacher’s unions healthcare:

FY 2010 Q2
MINUTEMAN NASHOBA HEALTH Health Insurance premiums for district employees $1,184,601
MINUTEMAN NASHOBA HEALTH School employees health insurance payments (Apr-Jun) $382,238
MINUTEMAN NASHOBA HEALTH GROUP 4th quarter FY09 health insurance premiums $265,251

FY2010 Q3
MINUTEMAN NASHOBA HEALTH School employees health insurance payments (Apr-Jun) $382,238
MINUTEMAN NASHOBA HEALTH Health Insurance premiums for district employees $1,184,601
MINUTEMAN NASHOBA HEALTH GROUP FY10 health insurance premiums $183,765
MINUTEMAN NASHOBA HEALTH GROUP 4th quarter FY09 health insurance premiums $26,5251
MINUTEMAN-NASHOBA HEALTH GROUP Health Insurance Trust $241,820
MINUTEMAN/NASHOBA HEALTH Emp por health insurance premiums for school employees $18,8029

Heck. And that “stimulus” was for only about $900 billion. It was all a scam to get money into the pockets of these kinds of areas. This was one of the wealthiest towns in the state, and they got this much in one or two quarters.

Teacher’s Union Healthcare.

Teacher’s Union Healthcare.

Teacher’s Union Healthcare.

Teacher’s Union Healthcare.

Teacher’s Union Healthcare.

Teacher’s Union Healthcare.

Teacher’s Union Healthcare.

Teacher’s Union Healthcare.

Teacher’s Union Healthcare.

Teacher’s Union Healthcare.

THAT is what the “vital and much needed American Recovery and Reinvestment Act” was all about. Citizens like you and me, citizens without healthcare, paying for healthcare for people like the Teacher’s Union Healthcare so they don’t have to pay a cent of their own money, so all their healthcare is paid for.

This $1.9 Trillion dollar “stimulus” is the exact same thing for various unions and mismanaged Leftist locales.


18 posted on 03/08/2021 5:54:36 AM PST by rlmorel ("I’d rather enjoy a risky freedom than a safe servitude." Robby Dinero, USMC Veteran, Gym Owner)
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To: zeestephen

Ah! Thank you-I have to take a look deeper then...:)


19 posted on 03/08/2021 5:55:16 AM PST by rlmorel ("I’d rather enjoy a risky freedom than a safe servitude." Robby Dinero, USMC Veteran, Gym Owner)
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To: zeestephen

Yeah, it seems the government workers (the swamp) always gets the lion’s share.. :(


20 posted on 03/08/2021 5:58:24 AM PST by unread (A REPUBLIC..! If you can keep it....)
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