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To: JMS

Exactly they are and always be a niche commuter vehicle.

Until you can go 300 (minimal) miles on a charge and recharge fully in 5-10 minutes EV’s are a non starter.

Commuter vehicle, or status symbol for upper class.

When you can afford 1 vehicle it has to fit all your needs not just your daily commuting needs... for most of America they can’t fill those needs


437 posted on 03/09/2021 12:16:45 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

“Until you can go 300 (minimal) miles on a charge and recharge fully in 5-10 minutes EV’s are a non starter.”

Tesla is advertising 520 mile range. More than adequate for most.

The average is less than 50 miles a day which means you only charge at night while sleeping.

A company in CA has an exchange station that Uber drivers are using. Presently 10 minutes for an exchange. Their goal is five minutes.


438 posted on 03/09/2021 12:30:50 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: HamiltonJay

“When you can afford 1 vehicle it has to fit all your needs not just your daily commuting needs... for most of America they can’t fill those needs”

Please tell me. What one vehicle fills the needs of all people?


439 posted on 03/09/2021 12:33:28 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: HamiltonJay

“When you can afford 1 vehicle it has to fit all your needs not just your daily commuting needs..”

The average in the US is 1.88 vehicles per household. About 10% have no vehicles which means that the average family has two vehicles.


440 posted on 03/09/2021 12:38:41 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: HamiltonJay

“Commuter vehicle”

Which is most of the use. Hardly a niche market!


441 posted on 03/09/2021 12:39:56 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: HamiltonJay

“Until you can go 300 (minimal) miles on a charge and recharge fully in 5-10 minutes EV’s are a non starter.”

We already have 350 kw charging. Tesla is hinting 450 kw later this year.

At 450 kw, you get 300 miles of charging in 10 minutes.


442 posted on 03/09/2021 1:12:47 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: HamiltonJay
“When you can afford 1 vehicle it has to fit all your needs not just your daily commuting needs... for most of America they can’t fill those needs”

When my wife and I were young, she had a tiny economy car (cost her $2500 new including options and taxes, about 90hp). We hauled couches, mattresses and a water heater on the roof. Ran that sucker into the ground over the next 25 years. When our earnings improved we finally got a station wagon, then a truck. No one vehicle is suitable for all needs, but one makes do with what they have.

443 posted on 03/09/2021 1:54:02 PM PST by roadcat
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To: HamiltonJay

I stand corrected. 400 kw stations are being installed in Europe.

China is developing a 900 kw charger. 300 miles of charging in five minutes.


447 posted on 03/09/2021 6:46:52 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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