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Updates on CCP Virus: Bishops Encourage Catholics to Get mRNA Vaccine Over Johnson & Johnson Due to Abortion Link
Epoch Times ^ | 03/06/2021 | Epoch Times Staff

Posted on 03/06/2021 8:41:45 PM PST by SeekAndFind

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) have recommended Catholics get the mRNA vaccines from Pfizer or Moderna over Johnson & Johnson, if possible, because the latter adenovirus vector vaccine was developed with the help of abortion-derived cell lines.

In a statement released on March 2, Bishop Kevin Rhoades, chairman of the conference’s Committee on Doctrine, and Archbishop Joseph F. Naumann, chairman of the conference’s Committee on Pro-Life Activities, encouraged Catholics to avoid getting the latest adenovirus vector COVID-19 vaccine from Johnson & Johnson if alternatives are available.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; johnsonjohnson; mrna; vaccine; vaccines
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1 posted on 03/06/2021 8:41:45 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I predict that there will be a lot of rear-end-covering this time next year, when the side-effects of these “ vaccines “ are realized by the general populace.


2 posted on 03/06/2021 8:50:29 PM PST by BrexitBen
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To: SeekAndFind

Not worried. Not gonna get said vaccine.


3 posted on 03/06/2021 8:53:19 PM PST by matt04 ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

The active rna type mechanism of the first two vaccines has never before been tried in any large scale vaccination program. I for one will get one of the vaccines that use normal approach.


4 posted on 03/06/2021 9:24:02 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born, they are excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: SeekAndFind

“If you or a loved one has died from the covid vaccine, please call this number.”


5 posted on 03/06/2021 10:17:40 PM PST by Trillian
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To: SeekAndFind

There is NO mRNA vaccine, you idiots!

Government is the disease.

You are the cure

99.997% of the time

Which makes you more effective than Moderna


6 posted on 03/06/2021 10:43:48 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: faithhopecharity

“I For one will get one of the vaccines that use normal approach.”

Only Chinese are making that, as far as I’m aware.


7 posted on 03/06/2021 10:49:41 PM PST by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

Perhaps the NovaVax


8 posted on 03/06/2021 11:11:14 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born, they are excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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Thanks. I hadn’t heard of Novavax.

Their method is a bit more along the “normal approach”.

They’re making what could be called a fake virus particle to initiate the immune response.

https://www.novavax.com/our-unique-technology#recombinant-nanoparticle-vaccine-technology


9 posted on 03/06/2021 11:31:51 PM PST by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: SeekAndFind

I understand the issue, except pharmaceutical companies frequently use fetal tissue when developing vaccines and other medications. Do any of us know whether or not that pertains to the current medications we take? And who hasn’t taken the polio vaccine? I understand it was developed using fetal tissue. So where do we draw the line?


10 posted on 03/06/2021 11:50:47 PM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing);)
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To: Flaming Conservative

You draw the line on doing nothing to encourage the murder of unborn babies, that is, if you are a Christian, and/or Pro-Life.

Otherwise, the profession of Christianity, or even being Pro-Life is worthless.


11 posted on 03/07/2021 12:47:43 AM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SeekAndFind

I watched a video of a priest who does vaccine research himself. He said it is morally ok to take the vaccines because they are developed on a cellular line taken from aborted fetal cells a long time ago. He said it’s like walking on a road in Italy which was once built by slaves. By walking on it you aren’t approving of slavery.


12 posted on 03/07/2021 1:48:07 AM PST by KittyKares (I miss President Trump!)
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To: matt04
"Not worried. Not gonna get said vaccine."

If you are not getting the vaccine, how are you protecting yourself from getting the C-virus?

13 posted on 03/07/2021 2:11:23 AM PST by jonrick46 ( Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: jonrick46

https://vaxxter.com/the-covid-vaccines-part-1/

19 in 100,000 C-virus patients die from C-Virus.
50 in 100,000 vaccinated people die from the vaccine.

I’ll stick with the C-Virus risk.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/03/no_author/death-rates-skyrocket-in-israel-following-pfizer-experimental-covid-vaccines/


14 posted on 03/07/2021 2:38:55 AM PST by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: All; SeekAndFind

More info.:

https://lozierinstitute.org/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-covid-19-vaccine/


15 posted on 03/07/2021 2:47:11 AM PST by Drago
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If you are not getting the vaccine, how are you protecting yourself from getting the C-virus?

Maybe he is indifferent to getting the CCP virus. Maybe he'd like natural immunity instead. That's how I feel about it.

(Disclaimer: Dr. Sivana is not a real doctor, he is a comic book doctor of the mad scientist variety.)
16 posted on 03/07/2021 2:49:15 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: SeekAndFind

Fetal cell lines are not the same as fetal tissue. Fetal cell lines are cells that grow in a laboratory. They descend from cells taken from elective abortions in the 1970s and 1980s. Those individual cells from the 1970s and 1980s have since multiplied into many new cells over the past four or five decades, creating fetal cell lines. Current fetal cell lines are thousands of generations removed from the original fetal tissue. They do not contain any tissue from a fetus.

Vaccine makers may use these fetal cell lines in any of the following three stages of vaccine development:

Development: Identifying what works
Confirmation: Making sure it works
Production: Manufacturing the formula that works

Neither the Pfizer nor Moderna vaccines used fetal cell lines during the development or production phases. (So, no fetal cell lines were used to manufacture the vaccine, and they are not inside the injection you receive from your doctor). However, both companies used the fetal cell line HEK 293 in the confirmation phase to ensure the vaccines work. All HEK 293 cells are descended from tissue taken from a 1973 elective abortion that took place in the Netherlands. However, I read that HEK 293 may have not been derived from fetal cells, because so many other types of cells were involved in the experimental cloning process.

Several vaccines on the U.S. vaccination schedule are made in cells from the HEK 293 cell line. They include vaccines against rubella, hepatitis A, and chicken pox. They have also been used to make approved drugs against diseases including hemophilia, rheumatoid arthritis, and cystic fibrosis.

PER.C6, is a proprietary cell line owned by Janssen, a subsidiary of Johnson & Johnson, developed from retinal cells from an 18-week-old fetus aborted in 1985. Both cell lines were developed in the lab of molecular biologist Alex van der Eb at Leiden University. In the adenovirus vector vaccines, like the one approved for use by Johnson & Jonson, the human fetal cells are used as miniature “factories” to generate vast quantities of adenoviruses, disabled so that they cannot replicate, that are used as vehicles to ferry genes from the novel coronavirus (the Spike Protein) that causes COVID-19. When the adenoviruses are given as a vaccine, recipients’ cells begin to produce proteins from the coronavirus, hopefully triggering a protective immune response.

To reject the use of vaccines which took billions of dollars to produce because of ethical symbolism is not worth the cost either in dollars or the cost of life.


17 posted on 03/07/2021 2:51:30 AM PST by jonrick46 ( Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: ifinnegan

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-03-04-pfizer-coronavirus-vaccine-killed-old-people.html


18 posted on 03/07/2021 3:01:39 AM PST by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
"Maybe he is indifferent to getting the CCP virus. Maybe he'd like natural immunity instead. That's how I feel about it.

If you are thinking that getting infected with the virus, like President Trump, that it would give you immunity, I am not sure that is something you want to do. You may have the gene that causes your immune system to over react, causing that death causing cytokine storm. So, basically, you are playing Russian roulette.

In the mean time, during the early stages of your infection, you are bringing the infection home to infect others who live with you. What if that was your mother? How will you protect your mother--those you love--as you feel that sore throat coming on?

And then, there are those expensive funeral costs--all because you played Russian roulette.

19 posted on 03/07/2021 3:23:15 AM PST by jonrick46 ( Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: Cvengr

Natural News is not credible. That’s saying it nicely.


20 posted on 03/07/2021 3:28:47 AM PST by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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