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Dinesh D'Souza floats a proposal to humble the Ivy League: Proposes a novel and seemingly workable solution to the problem of leftist bias in our nation's colleges and universities
American Thinker ^ | 02/28/2021 | Bill Hansmann

Posted on 02/28/2021 10:03:03 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: DrPretorius

RE: The UK is way ahead of the USA on this matter:

Well, the Netherlands, Hongkong and many other countries are ahead of the USA in this matter. Open Universities are in existence all over the world.

See here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open_universities


41 posted on 02/28/2021 2:47:19 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Bubba_Leroy

RE: Texas has had an accredited online only university for several years now.

Well, I just found out that New York’s State University (SUNY) system has started an Open University recently.

It’s called SUNY OPEN.

See here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_SUNY


42 posted on 02/28/2021 2:50:19 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Our son had this raised when he enrolled in an online MBA program with the Univ of Phoenix. He did this because his medical insurance was maxing out and he found that if he went back to school he could get back on Mom and Dad’s plan. The insurance initially objected until they looked and found that 400 people from their MBA programs were being treated as though the programs were accredited by their employers — who were the same as my employer. Our son got a second degree and stayed out of debt (to the hospital at least) and now is disabled but able to earn a living.

Come to think of it, this program already exists and will do the same thing for their students. They do classes one at a time but at the same rate as an in person school. As I recall, the MBA that our son received was very similar to mine.


43 posted on 02/28/2021 4:31:27 PM PST by KC_for_Freedom (retired aerospace engineer and CSP who also taught)
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To: SeekAndFind

Read later.


44 posted on 02/28/2021 8:29:09 PM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: pfony1

You are on to something there- the “nonprofit” and tax-exempt parts of the tax code need a major cutback. There are too many profit-making businesses masquerading as nonprofits in order to dodge taxes or appear as charitable institutions. Colleges are supposedly one of the largest lobbying groups in Washington and they play with tax-free money. Requiring all nonprofits to report and pay taxes on monies spent lobbying the government or influencing the public on matters of public interest would be a great idea.


45 posted on 03/01/2021 5:08:51 AM PST by Ford4000
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To: SeekAndFind

A lot of the real educations don’t work entirely online. Many engineering classes have labs that require hands-on presence. How does a doctor or nurse actually learn without touching and seeing stuff?

Sure, business or anything theory-based like straight math or law can be done entirely online. But a lot of stuff can’t. Is his national school going to just ignore those degrees?

Is this a National national school? Or is this just a private thing like University of Phoenix or that New Hampshire one that already offer online degrees to everyone and their mother? If it’s National, is he asking for an Amendment to add “education” to the Constitution?


46 posted on 03/03/2021 2:30:33 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: SeekAndFind

I have been predicting this since the beginning of online education. There is no reason why a professor could not send a course out to a million or more students. It will not, of course, be Professor Smith from the community college, it will be an Ivy League professor sending out a course that is designed by a Hollywood production company.

Zoom is a crappy course delivery system and it will not suffice! But a university with a 100 billion dollar endowment can take over higher education by purchasing and using far superior technology. Your community college professor will have a roll as a part-time facilitator or essay reader, but that is it. Students will still hear the leftist garbage that the Ivy League preaches, but it would be less effective without the peer pressure.

By the way, I use Zoom quite often. People do not pay attention; they shut cameras off, eat sandwiches, play with their cats and dogs, wear their pajamas, and do many other things that I care not to describe. It is not a good teaching tool for immature adults, which is what most college students are.

If there was enough money available perhaps a conservative organization could build a conservative virtual university. Right now, the left controls high tech and the public perception still, evidently even D’souza believes it, is that the Ivy League provides a great education. The Ivy League long ago left the role of education behind and took on the role of indoctrination. The Ivy League is about pedigree, and leftist idealism. Your small regional state college will provide a better education.


47 posted on 03/03/2021 2:58:54 PM PST by Scott Kraut (Leave the capital fence up, turn the place into a museum, and move the government to Omaha. )
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To: Galatians328

Distraction? Troll?

This fits very well with MAGA.


48 posted on 03/04/2021 8:00:26 AM PST by gogeo (It isn't just time to open America up again: It's time to be America again.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Exactly so.


49 posted on 03/04/2021 8:02:48 AM PST by gogeo (It isn't just time to open America up again: It's time to be America again.)
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To: Billthedrill

They can learn to code.


50 posted on 03/04/2021 8:05:06 AM PST by gogeo (It isn't just time to open America up again: It's time to be America again.)
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To: livius
WGU.EDU is an online university sponsored by several western states. Up and running, accredited, graduating students. It may not apply in every case, but expand it by all means.

Then gird for the next battle, K-12.

51 posted on 03/04/2021 8:10:02 AM PST by gogeo (It isn't just time to open America up again: It's time to be America again.)
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To: SeekAndFind; Pelham

That Gottfried article you sent me about clueless catering to political correctness so called conservatives

This fella always should be near the top


52 posted on 03/04/2021 8:12:21 AM PST by wardaddy (P IN 1999 JIM THOMPSON WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE BUSHES ...WE WERE WRONG)
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To: Scott Kraut
The point you made about immature students is true.

I've believed for awhile that many college students don't belong there.

53 posted on 03/04/2021 8:14:52 AM PST by gogeo (It isn't just time to open America up again: It's time to be America again.)
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To: Galatians328

“Dinesh D’Souza isn’t a total idiot”

No. He’s worse, he’s an opportunist. One who tried advancing his career by accusing conservatives of being racist. He managed to do real damage to Sam Francis, the writer whose works presaged Donald Trump. But since that occurred in the Print Era, America Before the Internet, few know or remember what that felonious rat did.


54 posted on 03/04/2021 4:37:38 PM PST by Pelham (Liberate the Democrats from their Communist occupation)
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To: PapaBear3625

Exactly. Griggs v Duke Power forced dramatic changes in the way that corporations are able to hire.

That SCOTUS decision is why every American corporation now wants an unnecessary college degree instead of simply using their own in house testing.

Griggs is the unholy stepchild of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the very one that our current panoply of conservative talking heads gush over, bragging how it passed thanks to the GOP.

Barry Goldwater, Ronald Reagan, and Bill Buckley all opposed it, seeing it as thought policing and a vast and intrusive power grab by the federal bureaucracy. Guess who was right.


55 posted on 03/04/2021 4:49:01 PM PST by Pelham (Liberate the Democrats from their Communist occupation)
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