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TO: patriot torch, Dugway Duke, Rurudyne, Highest Authority

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You 4 guys views as expressed on this thread are similar to many other Freepers. I just want to take a couple minutes to express my thinking which MOSTLY contrasts to you guys collective thinking, to wit: # 1. Your argument, expressed without alternatives to the COS, is an argument, or in some cases just rebuke, to continue the status quo. I think MOST Freepers don’t want to continue the status quo and so far 15 state legislatures don’t either.

# 2, It takes 34 states to approve a convention and 38 to approve any single amendment. Imagine, if you will, trying to get your pet amendment passed by 38 states in both houses and signed by the Governor while bearing in mind that some of those states will necessarily have to be blue states. So, progressives “running away” is not possible or likely. I can say too that I think Texas would veto ANY nonsensical amendment DOA. Term Limits for Representatives and Senators and a balanced budget requirement (like many states including Texas) are worth the fight!

My biggest gripe about secession is that if secession takes place by a number of states and even if there is no accompanying war there’s no guarantee the damn liberals won’t infiltrate us all again and then we are right back where we started with another mini secession or two.

We still have a significantly higher percentage of conservatives in the country so let’s wake up and get aggressive and control the liberal/marxist bastards via reclaiming states rights through STRONG NULLIFICATION (like South Dakota) backed up by physical force if it comes down to it. Also, we need Civics education and History back in our Public schools and NOT the Liberal/Marxist/Socialist model.

Remember what Lincoln said....”We the People are the rightful masters of both Congress and the Courts not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who would pervert the Constitution”.

The only alternative argument I support is a halfway measure and that iss strong and AGRESSIVE nullification. Secession is just so adverse as to be the very, very, very last resort. We can corral, retard and contain the damn liberals without a Civil War...........in my humble opinion. Trump proved that.

Secession is more aggressive than nullification, but nullification is just one step away from it. Secession creates a constitutional crisis which can result in a declaration of the Insurrection Act, and occupation by federal troops. That leads to something like Lexington and Concord eventually. Who fires the first shot in a civil war is mostly a matter of image. The underlying intractable political dispute was already present.