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Gun Control Advocates Love The Idea Of A GOP Split
BearingArms ^ | 02-17-2021 | Cam Edwards

Posted on 02/17/2021 7:24:05 AM PST by TexasGurl24

Universal background checks and red flag laws aren’t “middle ground” agenda items. They certainly don’t “honor” the Second Amendment. Instead, these are some of the top priorities of gun control activists, and they are aimed squarely at legal gun owners rather than violent criminals.

I’m sure that gun control activists would love to see a third party comprised of former Republicans who are willing to embrace at least a few of the gun control movement’s biggest issues. Not only would it allow Democrats to pick up some additional votes for their anti-gun legislation, but more importantly it would cripple the chances of the Right to take back control of the House and Senate in 2022 by dividing the Right into separate and warring camps.

Like Muschick, I too have grown frustrated with the GOP over the past month or so, but unlike the former Republican, I’m annoyed with both factions, who seem to have forgotten the basic lesson of Politics 101: you win through addition, not subtraction.

The greatest gift the Right could give the gun control movement would be to split into two separate factions or political parties, which would benefit Democrats far more than it would either pro-Trump or anti-Trump Republicans.

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1 posted on 02/17/2021 7:24:05 AM PST by TexasGurl24
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To: TexasGurl24
I’m sure that gun control activists would love to see a third party comprised of former Republicans who are willing to embrace at least a few of the gun control movement’s biggest issues.

The author's basic premise is incorrect.

Those leaving the republican parry are not doing so because the republican party is strong on guns, or other conservative issues.

Just the opposite.

2 posted on 02/17/2021 7:28:00 AM PST by going hot
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To: TexasGurl24

Looks like you haven’t gotten the latest new improved definition memo extolling the additional meanings of “infringed”. Still waiting on mine via Western Union.


3 posted on 02/17/2021 7:28:54 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this?)
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To: TexasGurl24

Anti-Trump Republicans/Bush League Republicans ARE Democrats who wear R jerseys for camouflage.


4 posted on 02/17/2021 7:29:34 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: TexasGurl24

“ I’m sure that gun control activists would love to see a third party comprised of former Republicans who are willing to embrace at least a few of the gun control movement’s biggest issues. ”

Um, that’s not how this works.


5 posted on 02/17/2021 7:29:55 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: TexasGurl24

“I’m sure that gun control activists would love to see a third party comprised of former Republicans...”

The abuser in a bad relationship uses fear to control the victim. Don’t leave the Republican party or bad things will happen.


6 posted on 02/17/2021 7:32:32 AM PST by Mr. N. Wolfe
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To: TexasGurl24

Aww this had the Family in stitches with suggestions about what to say to the article.

Most cannot be shown here, so we will go with the PG version.

Dear Cam Edwards,
firstly this is a very poor psyop piece, enough on that point.

Now to the meat on the BBQ, it is not a few, but 95% of Republicans you think can be swayed by fear is incorrect, why you may ask?

The GOPe officially became DOA through the past 4 years, not by accident, but by clear and verifiable actions to destabalize and destroy Our President DJT, the unconstitutional Act #2 of Impeachment was the sound of the GOPe seeing MASS party members vacating and their bank accounts from Donations starting to look like a weeks work pay in a Chinese sweat shop.

Stay together to save us from gun control, THAT BOAT SAILED Jan 6th

Please accept our profound apologies if this news is shocking to you but the answer is No.

Blessings


7 posted on 02/17/2021 7:37:35 AM PST by wombatsrule
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To: TexasGurl24

“Shall not be infringed” means what it says. Any restrictions of any kind are infringements. Gun control is not about guns. It is about control. There is only one reason one group of people would want to disarm another group. They want to do things that well-armed people would never allow.


8 posted on 02/17/2021 7:38:10 AM PST by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: going hot

Contrary to the simplistic suggestions of utter morons, it’s not just conservatives who are talking about leaving the GOP.

If you read the article, you would see that.

It’s amazing to see how social media has retarded the minds of people who once had common sense.

When Obama was elected in 2008, we immediately hit the ground running with the tea party, organized and took about control over the House 2 years later.

Now cowardice, no surrender, no quitting.

The brain dead moron cowards now? They want to surrender and give the Democrats total control without a fight.

12 years of social media (which largely didn’t exist in 2008) has turned many so called conservatives into cowardly mush.

How does it feel to have less courage than Stacy Abrams or AOC? They may be radical America hating commies but unlike many of the cowards here, at least they don’t quit.


9 posted on 02/17/2021 7:44:50 AM PST by TexasGurl24
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To: TexasGurl24
The greatest gift the Right could give the gun control movement would be to split into two separate factions or political parties, which would benefit Democrats

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The fallacy in this logic is the assumption that a split in the GOP would result in three competing parties. Its more likely that the emergence of a new conservative party (a real one this time) would effectively decimate the GOP and render it an insignificant and inconsequential party. I mean, if there was a political affiliation alternative to the GOP who would want to remain in the Gutless Old Party?

In other words, the GOP would quickly fade away and we would be right back to a two party system, the main difference being there would actually be two competing parties instead of a single Uniparty.

I just don't see how a new, energized and purposeful party would benefit Democrats. To the contrary, there are a lot of people who would love to have a party they look forward to supporting. Even some disaffected Democrats, and there are a lot of them, might join such a movement.

10 posted on 02/17/2021 7:45:41 AM PST by Starboard
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To: TexasGurl24

Depends if the entrenched morons cheat..and the pub morons ..who are now a bigger obstacle than the dems..go along with the steal.
Otherwise,while we may slowly slug our way back..its next to impossible to beat a cheater.
Especially when there are NO consequences for cheating..not to mention in your face corruption.


11 posted on 02/17/2021 7:55:21 AM PST by Leep (Save America. Lock down Joe Biden!)
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To: TexasGurl24

Anyone who thinks a third party is good news for people who value constitutionally enshrined liberty just didn’t pay much attention to their math classes....any of them.

The coalition the GOP currently represents is already a minority party, nationally. Any bifurcation of that already minority group would only lead to supremacy of the Democrat party in states that are today, reasonably ‘red’.

If there are three candidates on the ballot and those candidates represent Democrats, Republicans and the ‘Patriot Party’ (or whatever its name would be), not a SINGLE statewide federal seat would be won by the ‘Patriot Party’ and because of the siphoning of votes from the Republican candidate, the Democrat candidates would win contests that would otherwise be a comfortable victory for the Republican. With a robust ‘Patriot Party,’ The Dems could easily pickup 80-seats in the House and 20-30 seats in the Senate. One would only need to look at all the federal election last year where the Democrat candidate was within 15-points of the Republican. Those are the seats the Dems would win.

This isn’t hard to understand, mathematically. I’m absolutely stymied who so many apparently can’t understand it. The only hope of fighting the Democrats is by taking back the Republican party from corporate interest shills like McConnell. That’s going to have to be done one county, state and federal office at a time through the primary process. Anything else is the wet dream of Democrats.


12 posted on 02/17/2021 8:06:08 AM PST by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: TexasGurl24

MAGA needs to demonstrably take over the republican party.


13 posted on 02/17/2021 8:43:27 AM PST by eastexsteve
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To: Starboard
In other words, the GOP would quickly fade away and we would be right back to a two party system, the main difference being there would actually be two competing parties instead of a single Uniparty.

Fact. Well stated.

14 posted on 02/17/2021 8:48:13 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: ScubaDiver
The argument you use to justify people staying in the Republican Party is the same argument that is rolled out when we are asked to support scum like McConnell: Oh I know he's bad, but if we support someone else in the primary that guy will get killed by the Dems in the election. Or when the scumbag gets through to the main event we are asked to hold our noses and vote for him rather than a third party for fear the Dem will win.

We should have all jumped ship and joined the Reform Party a long time ago. By now it would be the biggest party with the most seats in Congress.

Instead, we keep kicking the can down the road hoping that individual voters can somehow compete against the massive corporations that back the GOPe. We'll continue to have as much clout as individual investors have at the annual stock investors meeting.

15 posted on 02/17/2021 8:48:42 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not my current tagline.)
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To: ScubaDiver

A real MAGA party would attract new voters. These voters are wage earners and the working blue collar class. Right now over 60 million do not vote because the only choices are the Cheap Labor Express or the loony left.


16 posted on 02/17/2021 8:51:13 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: ScubaDiver

You are thinking statically. This is your mistake. It is sign of a low IQ or being a paid GOP shill....


17 posted on 02/17/2021 8:52:31 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

I hate to be the one to break it to you, but the people who don’t vote are the dumbest of the dumb, the laziest of the lazy. They don’t care about liberty and likely can’t even spell it.


18 posted on 02/17/2021 9:08:51 AM PST by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

The only argument I’m making is the bifurcation of the GOP gives the Democrats super majorities in the House and Senate.

It’s not a political argument. It’s simply an understanding of very elementary mathematics. 51% is greater than 49%. Splitting the Republican party in pieces when the current hole is already less than 49% isn’t going to win many races.


19 posted on 02/17/2021 9:12:09 AM PST by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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What fumb duck. The blue collar workers are not dumb at all. They have no one to vote for. Trump brought out few of them, 10 million or so more in 2020, but you get a party dedicated to killing globalism and for protectionism you will get 100,000 million!!

Unless the GOP changes, and I don't expect them to, I will kamikaze vote democrat to get rid of my RINO Representative.

20 posted on 02/17/2021 9:13:50 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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