You are spot on. Some folks have short memories apparently...
Posted on 02/10/2021 5:40:16 AM PST by Politically Correct
“how many divisions do they have”. The sheriff could deputize every man in the county if needed.
I hope this is repeated LOUD and OFTEN...................
Every storm begins with a single drop
Can a single county effectively resist the feds? Probably not.
Can thirty states?
So when 60 guys from ATF and the FBI show up with full tactical gear, helicopters, and sharpshooters, the local sheriff is going to start shooting with his revolver?
“the local sheriff is going to start shooting with his revolver?”
You think the local Sheriff and his deputies are only armed with revolvers? You’re watching too many Andy Griffith re-runs.
“After that, I think they’ll show up in such massive displays of force that no arrests would be possible without bloodshed, and nobody’s going to do that.”
It took two months to find enough fed volunteers to show up in their ninja clown suits at Bundy ranch. The feds had to go to three different states and six different agencies to find 200 federal gestapo. More than 5,000 patriots were waiting.
Why not, after all if any one deserved to be barred from obtaining "an office of public trust" wouldn't it be a JUDGE TAKING BRIBES ?
Wait let me answer that for you, they didn't do it because Hastings is a Democrat.
No thanks. A shootout with Federal agents is not something I wish to experience. There’s no such thing as “winning” that. They simply bring more guys, more guns, and more hardware to bear until you’re dead. See Waco. See Ruby Ridge.
Simply stop helping the Feds enforce unconstitutional gun control measures at the state and local level. Their operational capacity will be significantly reduced. Continue challenging them in court. Alan Gura has been wiping the floor with unconstitutional laws. We have President Trump’s picks in the US Supreme Court. I think we’ll see great progress from that.
States rights and the Constitution will be the only things that save us from this totalitarian forced compliance regime...
Sure, for the United States Bureau of Land Management. Collecting grazing fees.
That wasn’t the ATF/FBI conducting an armed raid. Very different situation. ATF/FBI don’t play those kinds of games. They show up and take what they want and then they go away when they please.
Cutting them off from state and local resources dramatically reduces their ability to conduct their activities and doesn’t involve firefights with Federal agents. It’s just a smarter path. Nobody’s going to live out this fantasy of performing a citizens arrest against dozens of ATF/FBI guys in full tac gear. If anybody tried, the Feds would be there the next day with 30,000 guys ready to kill or arrest (but mainly just kill) anyone involved. No thanks.
Well, of course.
The Democrats controlled the House 260-175 and the Senate 55-45.
They weren’t going to bar Hastings from running again.
No thanks. A shootout with Federal agents is not something I wish to experience.
You assume it is a shoot out. Could be a Mexican standoff if enough stand with the local sherriff.
The 2nd is not about guns, it is about the mil itia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_standoff
I fully understand what the Second Amendment is all about, and if a tyrant had agents going door to door, I’d be right there with you. If a tyrant had agents rounding people up and sending them to camps, I’d be right there with you. But some random raid on one house? Yeah, pass. I still have faith that President Trump’s picks in the Supreme Court will unwind a considerable amount of unconstitutional gun control with Alan Gura’s prompting.
The Founding Fathers endured decades of severe abuses far beyond anything we experience today before they acted. They were not cowards for choosing to not act sooner. They were men of conscience who understood that violence is the last resort of a desperate people who exhaust all other options. The fantasy of war is a whole lot cleaner and less scary than the reality.
A whole city block, or a whole county, armed similarly, perhaps they get slowed down a mite.
Sam Hildebrant had to hide out in Arkansas to do it though. Reading his Autobiograpy right now, as recommended by Travis McGee. Good read.
To whit:
USC Title 18 Sections 241 and 242. Conspiracy to deprive Rights under color of Law and the matching Deprivation of rights under color of Law statues.
It is a FEDERAL felony and can carry a sentence of life in prison or even the death penalty.
The NFA was only legal while it was just a TAX. Once it became more, it became an Infringement and therefore is in violation of the US Constitution.
“If anybody tried, the Feds would be there the next day with 30,000 guys ready to kill or arrest (but mainly just kill) anyone involved.”
The FBI has about 30-35,000 personnel. About 2,500 are field agents. The remainder are paper pushers. Bureaucrats are not skilled infantry, regardless of how much that fantasy is pushed by TV and Soros trolls.
Alinsky Rule #1:
“Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.”
“It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, “Peace! Peace!” — but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!” - Patrick Henry
Your weak kneed sentiments are noted.
You are spot on. Some folks have short memories apparently...
The fantasy of war is a whole lot cleaner and less scary than the reality.
My challenge to you is why you assume it is a shoot out? You quote a couple of situations and they are valid, but they are not the only examples in history.
There is going to be confrontation, we can not avoid it. but we can make decisions on how we engage. And the ultimate confrontation may have to be discussed and then everything done to avoid it. I don’t like it either and never thought it was a possibility.
My major point is, now is the time to form relationships, not stand individually. That is what our founders did at this stage.
Mal 3:16 Then those who feared the LORD spoke with each other, and the LORD listened to what they said.
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