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To: joshua c

[Italy has a large Chinese population. That is why they were hit so hard early.

The clothing industry imported Chinese rather than outsource to China so they could still say their suits and shoes are Italian.]


In Italy’s defense, we have a similar phenom here. The rag trade union used to be called the ILGWU (now UNITE HERE). I don’t know what % of the renamed ILGWU’s members are illegal aliens today, but I have to imagine it’s a substantial number. Back in 1978, when WaPo called illegal aliens for what they were:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1978/09/11/2-labor-unions-openly-aiding-illegal-aliens/b5830b1b-349d-43c2-b070-84945b1dd4f2/
[Faced with a growing stream of aliens illegally crossing the border to work in the Southwest’s farms and factories, some trade unions have begun openly organizing and aiding these undocumented workers.

Officials of the International Ladies Garment Workers Union (ILGWU) and the United Farm Workers claim that leaving illegal aliens unorganized threatens the job security and pay rates of native-born American workers. The unions’ organizing drives have placed them in direct conflict with the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS), the federal agency charged with finding, apprehending and deporting these illegal alien workers.

“We try to organize all unorganized workers. It’s not of interest to us what their status is except their status as exploited workers,” said Frederick Siems, executive vice president of the ILGWU.”This is the newest group and this is the group we must organize.”

The ILGWU drive runs counter to one of the basic thrusts of the American labor movement: preventing foreign workers from taking jobs in the nation’s farms and factories. Earlier this year the union, bolting from the official ALF-CIO position, endorsed a proposal to grant unconditional amnesty to all illegal aliens now residing in the United States. The AFL-CIO supports legislation to grant amnesty only to aliens who can prove U.S. residence dating from 1970.

The ILGWU’s increasing interest in undocumented workers stems from their increased presence in the industrial work force. According to INS spokesman BoB Seitz, more than 40 percent of them now find their work in the industrial sector of the economy.

ILGWU officials in Los Angeles say their membership has shot up since they began organizing heavily in garment plants employing large numbers of illegal aliens. Many of these plants, according to union organizer Mario Vasquez, employ as many as 80 percent Hispanic workers; sometimes a majority are illegals.]


16 posted on 02/09/2021 6:50:04 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

[Italy has a large Chinese population. That is why they were hit so hard early.]


I doubt that’s the vector. Workers in the garment trade are probably illegal aliens trafficked there at great expense (tens of thousands of dollars each). These workers don’t travel to China and back to Italy, because the Italy leg costs just as much the second time around.

What’s more likely is Italian management and legal Chinese liaisons who travel back and forth to obtain materials (cloth, buttons, sewing machine parts, et al) required for making the final product. Then there’s the huge contingent of Chinese tourists who show up in Italy. In 2018 alone, 3.2m Chinese headed to Italy to take in the sights.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/901197/number-of-arrivals-from-china-in-tourist-accommodations-in-italy/


23 posted on 02/09/2021 7:05:10 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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