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What’s Left Of The ‘Mainstream’ Republican Party Is Looking Around And Getting Nervous
Talkingpointsmemo.com ^ | 2/5/21 | Kate Riga

Posted on 02/06/2021 3:59:10 AM PST by cotton1706

The ascendancy of Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA), and Republicans’ lack of willpower to punish her, speaks volumes about where the party still is even after President Donald Trump’s defeat.

Only 11 Republicans joined the entire House Democratic caucus to strip her of her committees Thursday night; by contrast, 61 Republicans voted to demote Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) for voting to impeach Trump for inciting the Capitol attack.

That the Trump-Greene sect of the party has such power and support does not necessarily portend future electoral success. After all, during Trump’s term alone, Republicans lost the House, Senate and White House. In particular, they lost both seats in a double-barrel Georgia Senate runoff that, by all historical precedent, they should have won.

With the 2022 midterms on the horizon, again a cycle that historical trends suggest should be good for the GOP, there is a niggling concern that the loud, extremist part of the party could give Democrats their best shot at staving off the onslaught.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2020; 2024; elections; kag; maga; trump
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To: JonPreston

Thanks for explanation of why the article is so stupid.

Georgetown college Leftist.


21 posted on 02/06/2021 4:53:36 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: fruser1

Both parties are bought by foreign and globalist money. Enemies, foreign and domestic.

And they all took oath’s to defend the constitution. Is there a statute of limitations on Treason and Sedition?


22 posted on 02/06/2021 4:56:54 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: cotton1706
The idiot author of the article overlooks the fact that Trump garnered more votes than any Republican candidate in history, and his coattails downticket almost flipped the House.

MAGA forever. WhiGOP for the dustbin.

23 posted on 02/06/2021 5:04:34 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: cotton1706

There is only one way to save the Republican Party. We need a viable MAGA alternative party that can actually win enough seats to force MAGA participation in a ruling coalition. People must demand a MAGA alternative to “lesser of two evils”. The democrats are ruling the senate with 48 members. Look around, what the hell do conservatives have to lose?


24 posted on 02/06/2021 5:10:42 AM PST by hardspunned (Former GOP globalist stooge.)
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To: cotton1706

Moronic keyboard scribbler you found. Why did you choose to post it on FR?

> “After all, during Trump’s term alone, Republicans lost the House, Senate and White House.”

Trump’s landslide victory in 2020 was not lost, it was stolen.

Trump helped win the Senate in 2018.

The Democrat victories in the House in 2018, 2020, and the Senate in 2020 are highly suspicious.

The 2020 down ballot GOP victories were a strong indicator of Trump’s long coattails.

The writer is obviously stewed in Swamp sauce.

So again, why paste this slime on FR?


25 posted on 02/06/2021 5:12:35 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: cotton1706

As you pointed out so aptly, the article’s author is delusional - an effect brought on by a relentless propaganda campaign mounted by the American Pravda media complex in collusion with big tech social media and search engines. A once in a century disaster strikes, the GOP incumbent loses the White House by a whisker and Republicans are supposed to be inconsolable?

IMHO, the sackcloth and ashes routine is unwarranted. Trump will get to finish the job that Bannon got him to start - fire all the GOP incumbents opposed to the Trump agenda during the primary process. He’ll then have people who owe him when he returns to the White House in 2024.

You may think this is far-fetched and whistling past the graveyard. But there are solid historical reasons for optimism. Let’s assume the Democrats’ basic premise is true, i.e. that Trump lost fair and square. Trump’s loss wasn’t terrible - a couple of hundred thousand votes short in the swing states that decide the White House race. This is in the face of two outlier events - a mass casualty pandemic and the resultant economic depression representing the worst downturn since the Great Depression.

The Democrats expected a complete sweep of the states, both at the White House and Congressional levels. FDR got a 413 electoral vote victory margin. Biden’s was 74. The 1932 House elections gave the Democrats a 196-seat margin, vs the ~12-seat margin they got in 2020. The 1932 Senate elections moved the Democrats to a 22-seat margin, vs the 1-seat margin (thanks to the VP tie breaker vote) they just got after the 2021 GA runoffs. This was a blue wave a toddler could safely paddle in, not a tsunami.

If you accept the Democratic premise that Trump lost by 7m votes, that’s a Biden popular vote margin of 4%. FDR’s victory margin over Hoover? 28%.

That’s why they’re trying to prevent Trump from running again. He’s no Herbert Hoover, whose political career was over the day the results came in. The Dems aren’t afraid Trump will get the 2024 GOP nomination and lose in the general. They’re worried that one hiccup or other before 2024 will send Trump back to the White House with commanding GOP majorities, but this time cleansed of the never-Trumpers who gave him so much trouble in his first term.

If Trump intends to run again, the interval from now until presidential season should* involve the installation of Republicans who support the Trump agenda in the midterms, and the removal of those who don’t. Bannon’s quest to populate elected offices with Trump supporters needs to resume, so that when Trump re-enters the White House, his agenda is ready to go from Day 1.

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1932_United_States_presidential_election
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1932_United_States_Senate_elections
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_Senate_elections
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1932_United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections

You could also compare the numbers to those from the Spanish Flu election of 1920. Something similar happened, except this time, the incumbent Democrats lost big, with the GOP getting a 2/3 majority in the House. They would probably have gotten the same thing in the Senate, if every seat was up for grabs, rather than just 1/3. Point being that the pollsters were presumably modeling their blue wave poll results on 1920 and 1932, which were disastrous for the incumbents and resulted in ~300 and up electoral vote victory margins (i.e. winner - loser EV’s). Now that was a mandate. Whereas Biden had a ~70 EV margin, based on 1-2% popular vote margins in the swing states being litigated over. He’s skating on very thin ice.

* The big question is obviously whether Trump will run. Given what we’ve seen of Trump’s decision-making process, maybe he himself doesn’t know the answer.

The thing about such a comeback is that it’s so rare, it would be another superlative to add to his record - a real feather in his cap. Health permitting, I don’t see him not running. Fred Trump only began displaying signs of dementia at age 86, dying at age 93, so it would not surprise me if the Donald were physically up to the challenges of another term in the White House.


26 posted on 02/06/2021 5:12:41 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: cotton1706

I’m a Trump supporter and I don’t know what the hell Q-Anon is. I’m not a conspiracy theorist, either.


27 posted on 02/06/2021 5:15:07 AM PST by Ge0ffrey
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To: cotton1706
With the 2022 midterms on the horizon, again a cycle that historical trends suggest should be good for the GOP, there is a niggling concern

Racist.

28 posted on 02/06/2021 5:15:29 AM PST by Jim Noble (He who saves his nation violates no law)
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To: Zhang Fei

some would say 2024 prospects are equally as delusional....

The UniParty will spend the next 4 years assuring that voting really won’t matter... and they will continue to be able to tell the American people every few years who their leaders will be -just as in China


29 posted on 02/06/2021 5:18:17 AM PST by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
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To: who knows what evil?
So pop some popcorn and watch her make a fool of herself.

One of my favorite jokes: A young woman came home from her first year of college. While talking to ger father, she praised socialism. She had worked hard and had a very respectable grade point average. Her wise father praised his daughter and asked about her best friend. The best friend had partied all the time and had a very low grade point average. The wise father said to his daughter, “If socialism is so great, why don't you give some of your A grades to your friend and raise her average? The daughter replied, “But I worked hard for these grades!” The wise father smiled and said, “Welcome to the Republican Party!”

30 posted on 02/06/2021 5:28:50 AM PST by RetiredScientist
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To: MountainWalker

Democrats hiding the photo of Obama and Farrakhan comes to mind here, too.


31 posted on 02/06/2021 5:37:38 AM PST by lodi90
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To: mo

[some would say 2024 prospects are equally as delusional....

The UniParty will spend the next 4 years assuring that voting really won’t matter... and they will continue to be able to tell the American people every few years who their leaders will be -just as in China]


If voting didn’t matter, you wouldn’t be posting on this forum, which wouldn’t even exist. Any attempt to express your views on a public forum would result in your detention and removal to a gulag, where you’d spend the rest of your days churning out gew gaws gratis for some multinational with a household name.

Think it can’t get any worse? That’s what people who stood aloof when the Bolshevik Revolution was under way. “What could be worse than the Tsar?” - they wondered. They found out for the next century, in a Russia that hasn’t quite slipped the grip of the Bolsheviks, with a retread currently on the throne. It can not only get worse - it can get worse beyond anything you can imagine. Entire multi-generational families were slaughtered by the Bolsheviks during the Red Terror.


32 posted on 02/06/2021 5:41:21 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: RetiredScientist
The wise father smiled and said, “Welcome to the Republican Party!

If the father thinks the Republican Party is effectively anti-socialist, he's an idiot.

33 posted on 02/06/2021 5:46:21 AM PST by Jim Noble (He who saves his nation violates no law)
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To: DannyTN

145 voted to keep Liz Cheney in leadership.

Bush League Republicans still control the GOP.


34 posted on 02/06/2021 5:59:06 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: cotton1706

But that is NOT showing up in House voting results !


35 posted on 02/06/2021 6:03:11 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: hardspunned

DJT can’t do it all by himself..no ONE political party can solve all of our problems.

However if there are enough of “us” -independent, motivated, doing our own research, creating our own communications and media, organizing for clean elections in our local precincts, counties and states, no specific party affiliation or even heroic “strong man leader” is necessary.

The only people for whom party affiliation is important is “them” -and thats because WITHOUT a central organization “them” can focus on, manipulate and obtain control over, ...”them” can do nothing....about what is coming. NCSWIC

think about that every day every night 24/7/365


36 posted on 02/06/2021 6:05:55 AM PST by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
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To: cotton1706

The Republican party won’t win another election. Time for President Trump to initiate the new Patriot Party.


37 posted on 02/06/2021 6:09:33 AM PST by RobertoinAL
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To: Liz

“The ONE AND ONLY reason these races were (cough) “lost” is due to the machinations of...”

Cheating is a massive component, but it’s a mistake to leave out the Republican Party’s habit of (preference for?) fielding weak candidates few voters are the least bit excited about in their own right.


38 posted on 02/06/2021 6:24:02 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: Sirius Lee

Unfortunately, that “dustbin” is actually the recycle bin.


39 posted on 02/06/2021 6:26:56 AM PST by Roccus (Prima di ogni altra cosa, siate armati!)
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To: cotton1706

I believe the DC swamp Republicans knew the Democrats were stealing the 2020 election and figured, like all other times in the past, that after 4 or 8 years they would reclaim the reins of power. Now they realize the Democratic Oligarchy will never permit an honest election where that may happen and they are panicking.


40 posted on 02/06/2021 6:31:06 AM PST by antidemoncrat
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