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No, We Shouldn’t Launch A ‘War On Terror’ Against Trump Voters
The Federalist ^ | Februay 4, 2021 | Nathaniel Blake

Posted on 02/04/2021 7:32:01 AM PST by Kaslin

Except to those seeking an excuse to turn the national security apparatus on American citizens, the Capitol riot was not equivalent to the horror of 9/11.


The occupation of West Virginia is going to be a sight to see.

Following the Capitol riot on Jan. 6, some pundits and members of the national security state have been demanding a new war on terror. This time, however, the targets will be Americans. To take a representative example, Kevin Carroll writes in the Washington Examiner, “We ruthlessly hunted down foreign terrorists after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks and must do the same to their domestic equivalents.”

But the Capitol riot was not equivalent to the horror of 9/11, except to those eager for an excuse to unleash the national security apparatus on their fellow Americans.

Those who broke into the Capitol and attacked the police guarding it were largely a disorganized rabble, sprinkled with a few instigators who planned for violence. Their behavior was deluded and wicked, but it was not the equivalent of al-Qaida bringing down the Twin Towers, blowing a hole in the Pentagon, and murdering nearly 3,000 Americans. Frankly, it’s nothing short of grotesque to pretend the situations are equivalent.

Furthermore, even if the situations were similar, launching a War on Terror 2.0 against American citizens would be unnecessary. Law enforcement has been diligently tracking down and arresting those who participated in the rioting.

Washington D.C. has been occupied by thousands of National Guard troops and a multitude of physical security barriers have been erected. Donald Trump has been impeached (again), left the White House as scheduled, and will soon be on trial in the Senate, to potentially be banned from ever returning to office. Thankfully, the predicted follow-up violence has not occurred.

In short, the problem is being solved. But solved problems don’t expand budgets, increase power and provide opportunities to punish one’s enemies. Those require a continued threat of insurgency, sedition, and terrorism. Thus, Carroll concludes, “We defeated al Qaeda and can do the same to the fascist thugs who attacked our democracy last month. But only if we take similar hard measures against the enemy within.”

Setting aside the dubious claim that al-Qaida is defeated (rather than merely diminished), it is would be tyrannical insanity to bring the aggressive, Constitution-bereft, oft-blundering tactics of the War on Terror to American soil. Yet that is the logical conclusion of Carroll’s argument — invading West Virginia, waterboarding good old boys in Alabama, and drone-striking weddings in Oklahoma.

Carroll is unwilling, at least in print, to draw out the obvious conclusions of his calls for launching a new, domestic war on terror. Indeed, there is a striking gap between his apocalyptic rhetoric about the supposed threat and his actual proposals to address it.

He mostly pushes for expansions of the national security apparatus into American life and local government. For instance, he suggests the government “make fire and police departments that receive federal grants have their members sign commitments not to engage in acts to overthrow the government. Prosecute any who subsequently violate their oaths.”

This is superfluous, insofar as it is already illegal to try to overthrow the government. The purpose of such a proposal is not to stop or punish domestic terrorists but to further subsume state and local authorities into the national security state.

If Carroll is serious about ferreting out threats to the constitutional order, he could start with himself. He urges the government to “use the supremacy of federal law to ban ‘militias’ beyond the National Guard” even though the federal government is constitutionally prohibited from doing so. Carroll does not seem to have taken his oath to “support and defend” the Constitution very seriously.

Indeed, he and those who share his views do not respect the Constitution. As far as they are concerned, enumerated powers and the Bill of Rights are obstacles to be overcome, not limits to be observed. Spying on Americans, and then lying about it to Congress, is routine for them.

As for democratic government, they enthusiastically subvert efforts by elected officials to direct our nation’s foreign policy. Toward the end of Trump’s presidency, for instance, they openly bragged about lying to the president in order to keep troops in Syria.

They don’t believe in democracy or the rule of law, they believe in their power. The permanent security state that has been setting American policy in Iraq and Afghanistan and Yemen and Syria and all the rest have already wrested huge amounts of control from the elected branches of government. Giving more power, especially over American citizens, to such people is a greater threat to our constitutional government than the idiot rioters who attacked the Capitol.

If the War on Terror 2.0 gets to the “arming the moderates on the ground” stage, however, please ignore these criticisms and put me down as one of the “moderates.” I promise to make good use of the pallets of cash and guns.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 911; 911attacks; capitolbuilding; capitolriot; capitolriots; domesticterrorism; domesticterrorists; january6; law; nationalsecurity; politicalviolence; rioting; riots; september11th; uscapitolbld; violence; waronterror
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1 posted on 02/04/2021 7:32:01 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

You have to destroy the Constitution in order to save it.


2 posted on 02/04/2021 7:34:53 AM PST by GSWarrior
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To: Kaslin
Sorry, but I thoroughly enjoyed the videos of congress-SCUM being scurried around with plastic bags over their heads.

That's how it looks when an American election gets stolen.

They should be thankful there wasn't a REAL insurrection... instead their trying to make it a Reichstag fire - like the Nazis they are.

3 posted on 02/04/2021 7:35:36 AM PST by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: Kaslin

The Democrats have declared war on us. They should be careful about what they ask for.


4 posted on 02/04/2021 7:35:38 AM PST by Spok (All free men are equal only in their freedom; everything else is up to them.)
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To: AAABEST

they’re dammit


5 posted on 02/04/2021 7:38:06 AM PST by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: GSWarrior

By destroy, you mean change it? Isn’t that what the rats want?


6 posted on 02/04/2021 7:40:04 AM PST by Kaslin (Joe Biden will never be my President, and neither will Kamala Harris)
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“Law enforcement has been diligently tracking down and arresting those who participated in the riots”

No, the rioters who spent 5 months burning, looting, murdering in the name of anifa and BLM marxism have been allowed to rove and menace as they please. Same for the pussyhats who stormed the Senate office building. Same for the leftist teachers who stormed the Wisconsin state house. The Keystone pipeline idiots who caused a mountain of damage and delay. You name it...

They only get angry about demonstrations FOR normal America to be saved, not rising against it.


7 posted on 02/04/2021 7:40:35 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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To: Kaslin

Wasn’t this how Hitler started with Jews?


8 posted on 02/04/2021 7:41:02 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Kaslin

Mr. Blake is whistling past the graveyard of history.

L


9 posted on 02/04/2021 7:41:44 AM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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To: circlecity

Correct; See Death of a Nation.

The dems have this a little backwards. We are trying to save the Nation by rebelling against the attempt to destroy America.


10 posted on 02/04/2021 7:44:47 AM PST by oldasrocks
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To: AAABEST
Sounds like the left is ramping up for their own "Night of Broken Glass." This is why all the gun confiscation laws are being pushed, because they want a helpless victim, not one that can shoot back.

They want the enact "The Purge", but only one way (their way).

Keep your eye to the sky, your powder dry, and cover your six...

11 posted on 02/04/2021 7:49:10 AM PST by Dubh_Ghlase (Oh boy!)
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To: Kaslin

Too much power in one’s hand will never lead to anything good for all. Resentment will build up as it has done in the past and the breaking point will be reached. When it does, everyone suffers. The little guys will suffer the most because they are the fodder. The political fat cat rebel rousers will hide themselves safely away from the turmoil caused by them, and try to regain power when all sides are weakened. Something to look forward to? Its repetitive through out history. We never learn from the past.


12 posted on 02/04/2021 7:50:43 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (In politicians we get what we deserve, usually the best that money can buy, guaranteed.)
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To: AAABEST
They should be thankful there wasn't a REAL insurrection... instead their trying to make it a Reichstag fire - like the Nazis they are.

Exactly. Had that been the "insurrection" the libfilth are making it out to be, it would've been three things: 1) Massive, 2) Armed, and most important 3) Successful.

13 posted on 02/04/2021 7:51:58 AM PST by ScottinVA (Enough. Divide the country.. now. )
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To: Spok

Why?


14 posted on 02/04/2021 7:54:38 AM PST by sport
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To: Spok

>>The Democrats have declared war on us. They should be careful about what they ask for.<<

Why? They have nothing to fear and they know it. They could start shooting us and no one would care. The GOP would cheer them on and the police would be the ones shooting us. If we try to stand up they will arrest us. We’re domestic terrorist now, it’s ok to shoot terrorists.


15 posted on 02/04/2021 7:55:44 AM PST by Tejas Rob
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To: sport

In the new ways, a question like that makes people a little suspicious of the asker. It’s the kind of thing antifa or FBI informants would ask.

Just sayin’


16 posted on 02/04/2021 8:03:43 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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To: Kaslin

Of we on the right are labelled ‘terrorists’ by the left, the left and their enablers, will find out the Taliban and ISIS are just a bunch of Boy Scouts compared to what will happen here.


17 posted on 02/04/2021 8:05:15 AM PST by Wizdum (Tyranny always ends badly for the tyrannical. Ask Ceaușescu, Gaddafi or Saddam.)
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To: Kaslin

Last time I checked ‘Terror’ won the War on Terror.


18 posted on 02/04/2021 8:11:45 AM PST by Little Ray (The Government is always its own largest and most important Special Interest. .)
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To: oldasrocks

‘We are trying to save the Nation by rebelling against the attempt to destroy America.’

Absolutely correct!


19 posted on 02/04/2021 8:13:42 AM PST by ldish (WAS DEC 6th-Last OPP? NO-but we CONSERVATIVES now know we should've been there!)
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To: Kaslin

If the Left truly engages in a “war on terror” against its own people, they may create the equivalent of a self-fulfilling prophecy.


20 posted on 02/04/2021 8:15:42 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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