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To: TigerClaws; Jim Noble; EBH; nikos1121
Nathan's maxim: a lot of smart people have gone broke being right at the wrong time.

Many of us believe that the current state of unsustainable national debt, together with uncounted liabilities coupled with the danger of derivatives means that a harsh reckoning for the economy is inevitable. That it will come we do not doubt, but we do not presume to say we know when.

By way of illustration, the stock market has been operating for years now, really since Greenspan, on the assumption that the Fed has assumed moral hazard duties. In other words, so long as the Fed has our back, it will do what is necessary to pour money into the banks to prop the system up. We have learned that as bubbles burst the Fed will step in. So the market keeps playing because it believes the music will play on. Still, many are watching the Fed because the second they espy the mere wisp of an emanation or intimation of increased interest rates they will trample innocent bystanders in their rush out the door.

That a reckoning will come we think we are smart enough to know. But we don't know when nor do we know it's dimensions. If severe enough, it will lead to political as well as cultural disintegration.

Nathan's other maxim: the remedy for failed socialism is not genuine reform restoring capitalism but invariably imposing more socialism.

So we don't know what we are dealing with here, how close we are to the reckoning, the severity of the pain nor the degree of political derangement that will result. There are entirely too many leftists who would welcome a crisis that they would not let go to waste. My own view, we will not emerge more capitalist, more democratic or more constitutional.


48 posted on 01/31/2021 7:17:50 AM PST by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

My comment yesterday somewhat on point: With so much money sloshing about together with few firms paying any dividends, the returns on stocks are being pushed toward capital gains. Fine, but when they get to the point where their PEs are in the hundreds or thousands, the prices are ridicules. A huge bubble, kind of like the tulip bulb fiasco long ago in Holland. On paper COB friday, GME was worth 13 Billion. A trifle on Wall Street in total asthe stock is not worth 13 Billion. It is a retail stock, nothing more. When the prices break, those on margin will get wiped out. Extend that example over the entire market it is a disaster waiting and each day with grossly inflated prices, it gets more dangerous.


58 posted on 01/31/2021 7:36:27 AM PST by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media.)
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To: nathanbedford

posted this a couple of minutes ago but I know that not getting a notice of replies on Freeper leaves many of my questions unanswered...so again

IF they crash the market, will that be the opportunity to go back to the gold standard and get rid of the fed? Just wondering.


68 posted on 01/31/2021 7:46:36 AM PST by huldah1776
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