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To: Dead Corpse
"Since the passage of the Second Amendment, no State has NEEDED to add RKBA to it's Constitution. "

In the age of progressivism, all 50 state constitutions must have an RKBA provision. The United States Constitution does not repeal any of the declaration of rights in each state constitution.

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/debates_912.asp

Mr. SHERMAN, was for securing the rights of the people where requisite. The State Declarations of Rights are not repealed by this Constitution; and being in force are sufficient. There are many cases where juries are proper which can not be discriminated. The Legislature may be safely trusted.

This was said at the actual Constitutional Convention.

Far too many conservatives labor under the belief that the US Constitution makes all of the state constitutions irrelevant and that belief is going to get us killed.

10 posted on 01/27/2021 7:16:13 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica (Public meetings are superior to newspapers)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
Far too many conservatives labor under the belief that the US Constitution makes all of the state constitutions irrelevant and that belief is going to get us killed.

Not at all. However, the prohibition in the 2A DOES apply against the States as this is declared as a "right of the people"... The very misconception about the 2A's primacy is the wedge anti-gunners use to come up with crap like "incorporation against the States".

That was a 14th P&I argument that 2A never should have been a part of.

"As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow-citizens, the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keep and bear their private arms." - Tenche Coxe (introduction to his discussion, and support, of the 2nd Amend) "Remarks on the First Part of the Amendments to the Federal Constitution" Philadelphia Federal Gazette, 18 June 1789, pg.2

"But though the scheme of disciplining the whole nation must be abandoned as mischievous or impracticable; yet it is a matter of the utmost importance that a well-digested plan should, as soon as possible, be adopted for the proper establishment of the militia. The attention of the government ought particularly to be directed to the formation of a select corps of moderate extent, upon such principles as will really fit them for service in case of need. By thus circumscribing the plan, it will be possible to have an excellent body of well-trained militia, ready to take the field whenever the defense of the State shall require it. This will not only lessen the call for military establishments, but if circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow-citizens. This appears to me the only substitute that can be devised for a standing army, and the best possible security against it, if it should exist."
Concerning the Militia
Independent Journal
Wednesday, January 9, 1788
[Alexander Hamilton]

... and then there is the language in the Constitution itself...

The First 10 Amendments to the Constitution as Ratified by the States December 15, 1791

Preamble

Congress OF THE United States begun and held at the City of New York, on Wednesday the Fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine.

THE Conventions of a number of the States having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best insure the beneficent ends of its institution

RESOLVED by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following Articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as Amendments to the Constitution of the United States, all or any of which Articles, when ratified by three fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of the said Constitution; viz.:

ARTICLES in addition to, and Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the fifth Article of the original Constitution.

... and here...

Art 6 para 2

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

My major concern with welding on RKBA after all of this is that it very well could give State legislatures "wiggle room" to say... "Yes, we protected RKBA here... BUT... we included all this other licensing and limitations crap that wouldn't fly under the original US Constitution's protection if we actually followed it".

11 posted on 01/27/2021 8:27:20 AM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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